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  • Oct 10, 2022
    Sufi

    Facts and it's not even his most provoking work imo. His book and essays on hauntology and lost futures are far more interesting.

    Incredible how so many people missed the obvious capitalism critiques in vaporwave that the artists were explicitly going for

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    finally got over force and understanding and i’m now onto Self Consciousness can’t wait for the master slave dialectic, apparently Hegel was thinking of the Haitian revolution when he was writing that part

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    Womanpuncher69

    finally got over force and understanding and i’m now onto Self Consciousness can’t wait for the master slave dialectic, apparently Hegel was thinking of the Haitian revolution when he was writing that part

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    nvm f*** Hegel look what came in

  • Oct 10, 2022
    Sufi

    Facts and it's not even his most provoking work imo. His book and essays on hauntology and lost futures are far more interesting.

    honestly never read this stuff its super cool

  • gonna go to the library for state and revolution

  • Oct 10, 2022
    eye contact

    Capitalist realism is doomer stuff

    Not really useful for advancing Marxist thought

    after reading this early on and then reading more tbh yeah mark fisher kinda overrated but he had some banger quotes

  • Oct 10, 2022

    like that easier to imagine the end of the world than imagine the end of capitalism?

    goes hard. however, we know that its only true for people who have yet to be introduced to the alternative of socialism

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    or doomers lol

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    The Bush Family as Chinese 5th column

  • Oct 10, 2022
    SEGA GOON

    How much do u know about the economotrix? I mostly saw u talk about polytrix and philosoohy

    Pretty decent amount i just don’t read about it as regularly these days. Always like Mandels economic stuff tho and even if it’s introductory i still like reading that stuff cuz I usually find a new way to explain concepts to people more easily

    Haven’t gotten to vol 2 and 3 of Capital yet I need to do that still

  • Oct 10, 2022
    eye contact

    Capitalist realism is doomer stuff

    Not really useful for advancing Marxist thought

    I think the doomer aspect of it is overstated

    I find it mainly just properly identifies new obstacles this era of capitalism has put in front of us that our strategy has to take into consideration. I don’t think he’s saying they can’t be overcome. Overall I think it’s great altho there are issues with the book

    His overall arguments tho are good and quite interesting

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    eye contact

    Capitalist realism is doomer stuff

    Not really useful for advancing Marxist thought

    RIP

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    Some flicks from the joint Nazi/Soviet Parade after invasion of Poland... dark

    Swastika and Hammer/Sickle Victory Arch

    Soviet and Nazi Generals

    German / Soviet troops fraternizing

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    @cloud_rap i got a question on constant capital, if only variable capital can only produce new capital what about robots? aren’t they kinda both a robot can be constant capital that produces new value like a robot that further knits for example

  • Oct 11, 2022
    the reds

    Some flicks from the joint Nazi/Soviet Parade after invasion of Poland... dark

    Swastika and Hammer/Sickle Victory Arch

    Soviet and Nazi Generals

    German / Soviet troops fraternizing

    Nazbols won

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    the reds

    Some flicks from the joint Nazi/Soviet Parade after invasion of Poland... dark

    Swastika and Hammer/Sickle Victory Arch

    Soviet and Nazi Generals

    German / Soviet troops fraternizing

    I Wonder what the state line was on this

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    eye contact

    I Wonder what the state line was on this

    The state line?

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    the reds

    The state line?

    Like how or why people like Stalin decided to let s*** like this slide

  • Oct 11, 2022
    eye contact

    Like how or why people like Stalin decided to let s*** like this slide

    I mean in a context where they're signing a non aggression pact, dividing another country amongst themselves, engaging in substantial trade, and propaganda about each other is become neutral and even positive, why wouldn't this fly? If fascism is just a "matter of personal taste" as Molotov said, a parade doesn't too crazy.

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    Womanpuncher69

    @cloud_rap i got a question on constant capital, if only variable capital can only produce new capital what about robots? aren’t they kinda both a robot can be constant capital that produces new value like a robot that further knits for example

    Robots might seem categorically different from other tools because they're so advanced, but the way they're involved in the production process isn't rly much different than other automating tools. Like a wheel is also something that takes over a task that would earlier need more human labor to perform, the same is true with robots. They also don't completely replace human labor, just a lot less. And the fact that it's only quantitatively different and not categorically different in that it itself becomes value producing variable capital is reflected in the continuing falling rate of profit that happens due to the fact that these proportionally higher investments in technology don't actually produce more value, but actually (relatively) less.

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    Wrote this taking 7 am morning shyt my life a movie

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    eye contact

    Like how or why people like Stalin decided to let s*** like this slide

    A big thing that really doesn't get mentioned often is that the part the USSR "occupied" belonged to Ukraine not even 20 years ago and was captured by Poland previously in a previous war. If it hadn't been for this, places like Lviv would still be Polish probably.

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    Scratchin Mamba

    Robots might seem categorically different from other tools because they're so advanced, but the way they're involved in the production process isn't rly much different than other automating tools. Like a wheel is also something that takes over a task that would earlier need more human labor to perform, the same is true with robots. They also don't completely replace human labor, just a lot less. And the fact that it's only quantitatively different and not categorically different in that it itself becomes value producing variable capital is reflected in the continuing falling rate of profit that happens due to the fact that these proportionally higher investments in technology don't actually produce more value, but actually (relatively) less.

    What my mans said. As of now, it doesn't seem likely that robots can actually perform abstract labor themselves (if that happens we would have more problems than just capitalism collapsing). They are just powerful tools. Automation is not a recent invention, a farmer using oxen to till his fields is also using automation, a human driven tractor too, an automatic tractor too - the only thing that really changes is just how much more labor efficient it is. A robot still requires tons of human labor inputs, think of what is needed to even produce a single piece of metal, all the food produced for metalworkers and their houses, the geologists finding ore, the mining, the refining, the transportation, the wholesale etc. - you can go into further iterations and find more and more labor behind a product