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  • safe 🪩
    OP
    Jul 5, 2022
    deadacc

    either that or its an op to keep raising funding

    "oh there's totally these scary flying things that outpace our air superiority please lend us 2 trillion dollars"

    absolutely and thats definitely the implication of the 3rd option in OP

    but that would be a massive scandal in itself

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  • safe 🪩
    OP
    Jul 5, 2022

    id highly recommend this paper for anyone trying to learn more

    there's an enormous amount of bs around this subject and its easy to fall into rabbit holes that just go into crackpot territory

    this however is peer reviewed and in a pretty reputable science journal

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7514271

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    2 dudes in suits are at my door now ????

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    If you wanna get real conspiracy theory mode you could argue that America has been designed and propagated the way it has since its founding to distract from what’s truly happening

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    Not saying I subscribed to that train of thought but

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    Jul 5, 2022
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    xtc

    If you wanna get real conspiracy theory mode you could argue that America has been designed and propagated the way it has since its founding to distract from what’s truly happening

    definitely especially in terms of class disparities

    but the crazy thing to me is that they're being at least somewhat upfront about this
    whether its because their hand got forced or not there's something here

  • Jul 5, 2022

    Ok this spooky

  • Jul 5, 2022
    safe

    definitely especially in terms of class disparities

    but the crazy thing to me is that they're being at least somewhat upfront about this
    whether its because their hand got forced or not there's something here

    Yes this kind of fleshes out what I was speaking to thank you

  • Jul 5, 2022

    Alien p**** must be fire

  • FREE 💜
    Jul 5, 2022
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    safe

    but if they are Navy black ops projects then the US military legitimately knows things about physics and the way the universe works that are not public knowledge

    im not saying that you're wrong thats just terrifying to me if its true

    Why is it terrifying? It doesn't do anything really of course the government knows things everyone else doesn't.

  • BLACK
    Jul 5, 2022
    Stank

    Unfortunately I’m not going to be reading all of this

    thanks for letting everyone know

  • rvi
    Jul 5, 2022
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    safe

    I don't wanna sound like a crackpot and I feel like most ppl on this site who know me know that im not crazy and just gonna sit here and feed you bullshit

    but let me just make sure I give enough background for anyone who hasn't payed attention to this whole UFO thing over the last couple years - there's a ton more detail but I just wanna give enough to make my point

    in 2004 something happened w a US aircraft carrier called the Nimitz. the gist of it is that fighter jets got scrambled after objects were being tracked in the sky doing things that did not seem possible - like dropping 80,000 feet in seconds. the fighter jets were told it was a real exercise and were filled with very highly respected pilots. these pilots saw and filmed an object that they said was shaped like a tic tac but with no visible control surfaces or means of propulsion. it hovered above the water zig zagging around before matching their movements then accelerating away at speeds that are far beyond the capacity of military tech. it then arrived at their rendezvous point - somehow knowing ahead of time that they would be there.

    this sounds a little crazy already but all of this info is publicly available and came to light largely in 2017 when the videos were released by an ex CIA employee. the video is only short and doesn't show the craft bending physics or anything but the US acknowledges multiple times that this was legitimate - from Obama to the Pentagon.

    there's something about this that is bizarre to me

    the US military has the capacity to know for sure whether this was legitimate. whether there was a physically present, intelligent craft that was defying laws of physics and clearly represents technology beyond our own. they have the radar data which is not released, full videos of the craft also not released among other data (infrared, thermal, etc). undoubtedly they know more about this than is publicly available.

    so that leaves three options and all of them to me are insane and should be receiving a massive amount more attention than they are

    • there are physical crafts beyond the scope of humans that are on this planet and the US government/military is hiding information

    • the US government owns this vehicle and it's a black-ops project. in this case the US government has technology far far beyond the current known capabilities of human vehicles and again is hiding it

    • the US government is currently hosting congressional hearings, getting Obama to go on air and discuss this, having NASA investigate the UFO phenomenon and releasing reports on UFOs despite knowing that there is no credence to them existing. what is the reason for this?

    wym it arrived at their rendezvous point? (im just reading through the wiki article rn btw)

  • safe 🪩
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    Jul 5, 2022
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    FREE

    Why is it terrifying? It doesn't do anything really of course the government knows things everyone else doesn't.

    idk like I assume that the US military is sitting on some crazy s***

    but this is just so far beyond our current knowledge that its really scary to me to think that this could be information that is just locked away and weaponized

  • rvi
    Jul 5, 2022
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    rvi

    wym it arrived at their rendezvous point? (im just reading through the wiki article rn btw)

    @safe also what makes you say they have the capacity to know for sure whether there as a physically present intelligent craft defying laws of physics? kinda seems like big reach to me for something obviously hard to prove in a few different ways

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    Noticed people dgaf about this at all, maybe because with the amount of information out on it’s easy for the details to blur and forget about it, it probably won’t be a bigger topic until more information comes out… but it is very strange

  • safe 🪩
    OP
    Jul 5, 2022
    rvi

    wym it arrived at their rendezvous point? (im just reading through the wiki article rn btw)

    basically they had a pre determined point to return to and they got word that the tic tac thing after accelerating had arrived at that precise location ahead of them

    from that paper above:

    "On their way back, they received a call from the Princeton that the Tic-Tac UAV was waiting precisely at their CAP point. Senior Chief Day noted that this was surprising because those coordinates were predetermined and secret. Given that the CAP point was approximately 𝑅=60mi away, the probability of selecting the CAP point out of all the locations within the 60 mile radius, to within a one mile resolution (slightly more than the resolution of the radar system), is 0.0088%"

  • safe 🪩
    OP
    Jul 5, 2022
    Hedobevibindoe

    Noticed people dgaf about this at all, maybe because with the amount of information out on it’s easy for the details to blur and forget about it, it probably won’t be a bigger topic until more information comes out… but it is very strange

    yea for sure

  • Jul 5, 2022

    its #2 aka big cap

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    OP biasing yourself by not including the possibility that 4) it was just instrument error or an extremely rare natural phenomenon. Obviously if you only list those three extremely specific explanations then it seems obvious that there’s a conspiracy but you should do yourself a credit and include everything

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  • safe 🪩
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    Jul 5, 2022
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    rvi

    @safe also what makes you say they have the capacity to know for sure whether there as a physically present intelligent craft defying laws of physics? kinda seems like big reach to me for something obviously hard to prove in a few different ways

    basically that they have enough video, radar, other sensor data and eyewitnesses to know for sure whether something was there

    like it totally could've been the pilots seeing glare or something right? but then if the radar data also fits it gets a little more unlikely that's the case but maybe it just malfunctioned? but then if the video is there and the infrared/thermal shows something strange then its getting really doubtful that its just some mistake.

    im not saying they can know its a craft but they can know to a really high degree what the chances of this being a mistake are and what potentially realistic explanations are - and no-one else can make this judgement call w/out access to the level of information that they have

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    2 dudes in suits are at my door now ????

    They probably just wanna watch Minions, tell them they got the wrong place and direct them to the closest cinema.

  • Jul 5, 2022

    There is truth in your first two proposed options

  • rvi
    Jul 5, 2022
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    safe

    in before didn't read etc etc

    I really couldn't care less if you're reading or not I just want someone to give me a reason why what I said is untrue so I can know what to think

    cause otherwise it just seems insane to me that more people don't seem to care

    also, even if the videos are crazy s*** i think one of the realities is that short grainy black and white videos of a moving blob are never going to be able to captivate the general public on a mass scale like that. like unless the video itself was unimaginably crazy. even if this stuff is as wild as some think it is with these videos, i dont think the videos itself are attention grabbing enough.