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  • Feb 10, 2021

    Chronic over 2001 all day

  • Feb 10, 2021
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    Bernie X

    So it’s like a big ass mpc or some s***?

    The SSL/pic in OP is a mixing desk. You don’t make beats on it, you use it to mix & to run microphones through it.

    The beats were probably made on MPC’s and stuff, and then dre mixed them through this

  • Feb 10, 2021
    Everest

    The SSL/pic in OP is a mixing desk. You don’t make beats on it, you use it to mix & to run microphones through it.

    The beats were probably made on MPC’s and stuff, and then dre mixed them through this

    Ok so it was only mixed on it

    I feel dumb

  • Feb 10, 2021
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    gnarlynasty

    Nah,he just didn’t mix and sequence on it,he made the beats on them as well.

    I don’t believe that’s true/possible, I can’t say I know a ton about this console but to my knowledge, making beats on them isn’t much of a thing. The synths could’ve been recorded directly into the console but the sampling had to have been done on a sampler and then they would record the tracks from the sampler into that thing to add some instrumentation and mix

  • Feb 10, 2021
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    gnarlynasty

    Then why does nothing else sound like The Chronic or 2001 based on mixing and mastering alone?

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Gardner

    He did GRODT too.

  • Feb 10, 2021
    hot pancakes

    aren’t there boards in major studios like this currently anyway?

    i’m pretty sure any mixing or lasting engineer uses something similar

    100%. Producers aren’t really meant to know how to use them tbh. They’re why you get an engineer or someone who’s job and life has been studying these to make it efficient

  • proper 🔩
    Feb 10, 2021
    proper

    This too tho

    Chronic sounded a little dated when I first listened to it

    2001 timeless tho

    Might also have sound dated cause I heard 2001 in its entirety before the chronic.

    Friend gifted me the 2001 album for my bday when it came out cause the singles were huge all over trl n s*** but I was still mostly an underground/backpack rap fan

    Then started deep diving into older street rap classics around 2005, then ti king came out and I started to do d**** and was full on street/drug dealer rap after that

  • Nessy 🦎
    Feb 10, 2021
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    Bernie X

    I wonder when it got popular to start using DAWs

    Fr all of this is always confusing to me

  • Nessy 🦎
    Feb 10, 2021
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    Like producers used to make beats on pro tools and all that

  • Feb 10, 2021
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    Nessy

    Like producers used to make beats on pro tools and all that

    I think in that era where pro tools became the standard for recording (late 90s early 00) hip hop producers generally weren’t making beats on it. They made the beats in a sampler, then it would get put into a daw where the rapper would record and engineers do their thing

  • Feb 10, 2021
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    Bernie X

    I wonder when it got popular to start using DAWs

    I remember when people used to s*** on fl studio and would use it as an insult for beats they thought was trash "this some fruity loops trash"

    The shift started around the early 10s I think.

  • proper 🔩
    Feb 10, 2021
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    Nessy

    Fr all of this is always confusing to me

    9th wonder the original fruity loops producer

  • Feb 10, 2021
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    2words

    I don’t believe that’s true/possible, I can’t say I know a ton about this console but to my knowledge, making beats on them isn’t much of a thing. The synths could’ve been recorded directly into the console but the sampling had to have been done on a sampler and then they would record the tracks from the sampler into that thing to add some instrumentation and mix

    Your most likely right lol but I don’t think he could’ve perfected those beats the way he did with any other console. Pretty sure they mix blockbuster movies with s*** like this.

  • Feb 10, 2021
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    proper

    9th wonder the original fruity loops producer

    was gonna say this but i wasn't sure if there was anyone of note before him i couldn't remember

  • Nessy 🦎
    Feb 10, 2021
    Yung Dagger D

    I remember when people used to s*** on fl studio and would use it as an insult for beats they thought was trash "this some fruity loops trash"

    The shift started around the early 10s I think.

    Yea new producers like lex and all that generation probably came in the game using them and older beatmakers had to adapt

    I wonder if hit boy was in the studio showing ye how to draw patterns on fl lmao

  • proper 🔩
    Feb 10, 2021

    Had homies using fruity loops and Sony acid and s*** back in like 04 too

  • Feb 10, 2021
    gnarlynasty

    No lie,I wonder if a modern day producer would know what to with this? I wanna say Travis would but I don’t even trust him lol.

    Mike Dean 100% would know

  • Nessy 🦎
    Feb 10, 2021
    valerie

    was gonna say this but i wasn't sure if there was anyone of note before him i couldn't remember

    I think he started using it in 2004 so he was probably the earliest, s*** was impossible to use back then

  • Feb 10, 2021
    Mango

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Gardner

    He did GRODT too.

    And GRODT is well made af too so I’m not surprised. Some of the production on their would prob sound super dated if the mixing wasn’t so great

  • Nessy 🦎
    Feb 10, 2021
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    2words

    I think in that era where pro tools became the standard for recording (late 90s early 00) hip hop producers generally weren’t making beats on it. They made the beats in a sampler, then it would get put into a daw where the rapper would record and engineers do their thing

    You can make beats on it but it’s a pain to use for that so yea they were probably sample based producers or they had gear in the studio to record on and bounce the audio on pro tools

  • Feb 10, 2021
    Mango

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Gardner

    He did GRODT too.

    I'm checking his credit list and most of the albums and singles I've heard are very well mastered and clean. You are definitely right

  • Feb 10, 2021
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    Nessy

    You can make beats on it but it’s a pain to use for that so yea they were probably sample based producers or they had gear in the studio to record on and bounce the audio on pro tools

    some producers swear by pro tools. they got midi and stuff now too. i can barely do easy easy s*** in pro tools so i bet the learning curve for actually making good stuff is rough

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    gnarlynasty

    Your most likely right lol but I don’t think he could’ve perfected those beats the way he did with any other console. Pretty sure they mix blockbuster movies with s*** like this.

    Well yeah, I’m sure it was a big part of the mixing. The mastering engineer probably deserves a lot of credit too

    I wonder what was used for Compton, because I think that sounds even better than the Chronics

  • Feb 10, 2021
    Nessy

    You can make beats on it but it’s a pain to use for that so yea they were probably sample based producers or they had gear in the studio to record on and bounce the audio on pro tools

    Yeah I know, you can make beats on it but it’s not a beat friendly daw and in that era everyone seemed to be making beats on hardware, samplers and keyboards whether you look at Kanye, Timbaland, Dilla, etc

  • Feb 10, 2021
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    Everest

    some producers swear by pro tools. they got midi and stuff now too. i can barely do easy easy s*** in pro tools so i bet the learning curve for actually making good stuff is rough

    the only producers who still pro tools for beats are the ones who grew up using it lol. most of them would admit that abelton and fl studio are better for making beats though.