99% of ktt2 users were told the vision and still can't see it. absolutely pathetic

So in other words, you have zero idea how criticism works

The piano beat is hard as f***

If it had properly isolated vocals it’d be amazing

lmao i'm not following your logic. how am i indicating that?

So you dont even know what criticism is?

this is like saying that art should be interpreted by the museum tombstones that sit next to the works

it ain't comin up with excuses or s*** like that, it's just interpretation. it's one of the most integral parts of art

bro what are you saying right now

a large part of art is about interpretation, that's how we end up with s*** like this

You dont understand what I'm saying or how it relates to what you said, because you were talking out of your ass about a subject you clearly know nothing about. You're another loser child trying their best to use all 3 of their brain cells to look smart on the internet

Delete your account and read more books s*** stain

chillax we here itt appreciating art what's your take on tell the vision

Funny thing about art, minimalism and critiques of poor execution that usually come with the territory is it leaves some people thinking "Is this just 'bad'... or am I just not getting... 'it'?! Perhaps this is challenging my perception of terms I seek comfort in helping me explain what seems unexplainable to me... Kanye made MBDTF... I know he can do better! so wtf is this s***???" and tbh I think that's a beautiful stance to take! People thought the same about Picasso... It's so easy to call this trash and that garbage, but personally, it's almost too easy... like it could be a trap set by the creator to filter out the uninformed... or it could just be trash

Let's not pretend the music hemisphere is not oversaturated with a lack of originality, overdose of artistic convenience, comfort and cash grabs which leaves us begging for something fresh that we can't recognise... something that provokes discussion... Taking context into account, Kanye is an artist who cares about the craft, that's undeniable at this point.... so why would he do this? Why would he butcher such beautiful vocals and stick them behind a FL studio preset piano loop and put it on such a profound album? WHY???

And maybe that's what he intended... or maybe he just rushed it for the release party to match CLB.... I guess we will never know ooooo

xD

i can understand how what i said comes off that way. I know my original post was dismissive, but you are right, there is value in discussing art based on interpretation. I just don't really see any interpretation to me justifying the execution of the track.

"Unfounded" has a negative connotation, but in the context of art criticism a lot of it is "unfounded" in that it's not based on facts, but the feelings of the individual. But in this sense, I don't think it adds more validity to the song to hypothesize a meaning.

Don't really have an argument for you beyond I don't think any thing Kanye has done indicates a deeper meaning for the track, and if there is one, the song can be executed in a lot more interesting ways.

I get what you mean in what Fountain implied about how we interpret the value and meaning of art, but even that work itself had a mission statement.

There's just nothing to really build off with Tell the Vision though, so it feels a lot more speculative.

lmao it's not that deep.

i'd only hope if you knew any thing about me you wouldn't say that and you're assuming a lot about me that isn't true.

You’re being really weird man

i understand ya. i do think there is a mission statement to the song (i kinda spoke a bit bout it in one of my last replies to insertcool), agree to disagree chickienug

Will never understand the big deal
It’s paying respects imo

who r u talking to

Chuckienugget

Unplug your modem and open a book that doesn't say harry potter on the cover

I'll check your post over again.

And I appreciate that. I don't like being so combative lol, and I think we probably have more similarities than differences.

Agree to disagree

chickienug my boy
i think his last 2 posts made sense outta what he was tryn to say earlier. he just doesnt see a mission statement in the song, and i get why ppl would think that

How you make this thread and dont post the og version without everybody