This is somehow a response thread to the “Summrs & Kankan scandal”, but also a critique of the current state of this site. So it’s gonna be a long read

Let me start this off by saying I do not condone any of the behavior recently shown by Slayworld members.

While it’s generally “innocent until proven guilty”, these accusations do seem to hold a lot of weight and I could see them containing a lot of truth. So please keep this thread respectful.

For months now I’ve been thinking on how to put people on what I thought could be the new wave of music. Pluggnb.

But these last days made me realize that this isn’t what KTT is about anymore. Nowadays we thrive off negativity and resentment.

This whole Slayworld “situation” is so f***ed up. They threw their careers away before they even started. And the worst thing is they made it even harder for anyone to come up on sc nowadays, because a lot of people seem to think the cause of this is soundcloud.

While it may seem like there’s a lot more weird s*** happening in the (underground) music scene nowadays, it’s really just more prevalent. But I will argue that even if that were case, soundcloud is still one of the best implementations in music history, ever. And that’s because it lets people who would’ve never had the means to make music professionally, grow and build their own sound. We’ve had stars like Uzi, Carti etc because of this. And more to come.

Niggas on this site pick & choose when to let s*** slide and when not to

This is a screen of the TI cancel thread for example

Another example would be the Freddie Gibbs thread last week, when his BM was tryna “cancel” him.

KTT didn’t give a f***. And respectfully, I didn’t either cause who tf does not like Freddie f***ing Gibbs?

But that’s the point. Whenever there’s some bad s*** happening, you already know how that thread’s gonna do numbers. When it’s a “certified” artist no one will care after a week. But whenever it’s someone new & young their name is tainted forever.

Really, to me it seems like this forum is full of bitter, grown ass men, thriving off young adults worst mistakes.

Slayworld thread is the best example for this. S*** got hella traction these last few days and before that there was like 5 of us constantly trying to put y’all on to their music. Now there’s hella people saying “Oh I knew these niggas was weirdos” when y’all was just posting “Who?” a month ago

As much as this forum claims to hate twitter and “cancel culture”, this site isn’t much different anymore. Hot takes and hate took over. No fruitful discussions anymore, just negativity.

Again, I’m not defending Summrs or Kankan’s actions at all. I promise you this has tainted my ability to enjoy their music a lot.

But this situation made me realize how we as a whole forum shifted in the way we discuss music and make threads.

I’ve been wanting to put KTT on Slayworld for a whole year, I just never felt like making a thread because I could already predict the outcome of it. And if there’s one thing that makes us even worse than twitter, it’s when you’re not even able to discuss new music, on a MUSIC FORUM.

I don’t know if there’ll be another shift on the way we discuss music, but as long as it stays like this I’ll just be in my bubble of specific Artist threads. Because the actual state of this site is horrible and no fun at all

aint nobody reading all this

Funny but this reply perfectly encapsulates what OP is saying

I dont know what most of this means but bladee is the best rapper to come out of soundcloud

fr this is now a bladee appreciation thread

Really, to me it seems like this forum is full of bitter, grown ass men, thriving off young adults worst mistakes.

As if this isnt the case with every other platform on the internet. Youre not wrong on every level but KTT is not unique in these feelings, twitter has just trained you to care more about this s***. In the case of Freddie Gibbs there was nothing for us to “cancel” him for other than child support right? Every other thread about our favorite artists getting called out for doing something deplorable is met with compliance. Ezra Koening, Sia, Doja Cat, this list goes on. Do we move on eventually? Yes! We would be f***ing nerds if we actually kept caring instead of just choosing not to support these people silently.

With regard to our reception to new music, sounds like you’re bitter we don’t like the s*** you try and put us on to. There is plenty of gassing up s*** music on this site. This site is also where you’re gonna find every new budding artist gain traction before they get famous. What’s your point really OP? Is there a conclusion here other than “KTT mean :( QQ”

It’s not just KTT that’s like this it’s just the way people are anymore. It’s too easy for people to stay in their own bubbles of music without ever branching out and for some reason they’re just okay with that. People generally are less receptive to new music, but another juicy 20 page gossip thread? Sign them up

Yeah I said this back during KTT1 that there was this weird exposal culture of trying to always give someone an L

It's hilarious you can pretty much predict the first reply to any thread nowadays, just bitter people looking for likes. It's sad. I'm super appreciative for my friends on here though cus if I never met them I would have probably stopped coming on here at all

As I was reading someone post some genuine discourse on this website for a while I just knew this would be the first reply

Unless I’m misunderstanding I feel like the OP is all over the place. Are we talking about cancel culture, SoundCloud, or KTT?

bladee

also unrelated but since we brought up bladee, yung lean is an often overlooked father of soundcloud rap

yet his talk all nonsense

Yeah it’s a mixed bag of emotions lol

I feel the overall point and wanted to contribute but I didn’t know where to start

Not really, it’s just all over place + nothing new being said

All of his points are extremely valid

Aight so the ti thread was like 15 or 20 pages or some s*** and the thread was mostly niggas who said it was f***ed up and Freddie Gibbs bm just said he ain’t care about his kids, on the other hand them niggas raped a b**** and beat the f*** out of her

@Nexizimas @Southpaw justify yourself

chance the rapper saved soundcloud and then it died

but now its back

ngl ktt threads these days just follow a script. You can always almost predict what’s going to be said (and when) before you start reading replies.

Yeah he is

Coincidentally his music seems to have unironically aged better than much of what came out even as far as 2017

Yeah I don’t even like his music like that but I respect what he did