NeonNigga23 ♻️Mar 2, 2021·2 repliesi feel like the state of music sxn is due to the fact that there is no new music
Mar 2, 2021·3 repliesI remember the days when you thought you got into an artist early then u check ktt and theres already a 30 page thread filled with info, leaks and lowkey songs u wouldn't have unless digging. I attempted to bring the feeling back with the slay thread but... we saw how that turned out
Mar 2, 2021·editedI don’t know if there’ll be another shift on the way we discuss music, but as long as it stays like this I’ll just be in my bubble of specific Artist threads. Because the actual state of this site is horrible and no fun at all
yeah i realized this a few months ago. it's sad the way people pick and chose. i've seen some people on this site blast certain artists they don't really care about whenever they do some vile s*** (which they should), but then turn around and try to defend their favs for doing the same thing. s*** f***s my head up. but this is what it's came down to for me as well @FOREVA
Mar 2, 2021NeonNigga23i feel like the state of music sxn is due to the fact that there is no new music
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Mar 2, 2021
theboyWeezer thread is probably the best music discussion on the site
s/o to @Ithaka
❤️❤️❤️i try my best ty
- Mar 2, 2021·1 replyNeonNigga23
i feel like the state of music sxn is due to the fact that there is no new music
disagree there is some great music to talk about it’s just not buzz worthy talk
- NeonNigga23 ♻️Mar 2, 2021·1 replyithaka
disagree there is some great music to talk about it’s just not buzz worthy talk
yea i agree there is enough good music to discuss but no major releases as of late so people just talk about the same thing
Mar 2, 2021
FOREVAThis is somehow a response thread to the “Summrs & Kankan scandal”, but also a critique of the current state of this site. So it’s gonna be a long read
Let me start this off by saying I do not condone any of the behavior recently shown by Slayworld members.
While it’s generally “innocent until proven guilty”, these accusations do seem to hold a lot of weight and I could see them containing a lot of truth. So please keep this thread respectful.
For months now I’ve been thinking on how to put people on what I thought could be the new wave of music. Pluggnb.
But these last days made me realize that this isn’t what KTT is about anymore. Nowadays we thrive off negativity and resentment.
This whole Slayworld “situation” is so f***ed up. They threw their careers away before they even started. And the worst thing is they made it even harder for anyone to come up on sc nowadays, because a lot of people seem to think the cause of this is soundcloud.
While it may seem like there’s a lot more weird s*** happening in the (underground) music scene nowadays, it’s really just more prevalent. But I will argue that even if that were case, soundcloud is still one of the best implementations in music history, ever. And that’s because it lets people who would’ve never had the means to make music professionally, grow and build their own sound. We’ve had stars like Uzi, Carti etc because of this. And more to come.
Niggas on this site pick & choose when to let s*** slide and when not to
This is a screen of the TI cancel thread for example
Another example would be the Freddie Gibbs thread last week, when his BM was tryna “cancel” him.
KTT didn’t give a f***. And respectfully, I didn’t either cause who tf does not like Freddie f***ing Gibbs?
But that’s the point. Whenever there’s some bad s*** happening, you already know how that thread’s gonna do numbers. When it’s a “certified” artist no one will care after a week. But whenever it’s someone new & young their name is tainted forever.
Really, to me it seems like this forum is full of bitter, grown ass men, thriving off young adults worst mistakes.
Slayworld thread is the best example for this. S*** got hella traction these last few days and before that there was like 5 of us constantly trying to put y’all on to their music. Now there’s hella people saying “Oh I knew these niggas was weirdos” when y’all was just posting “Who?” a month ago
As much as this forum claims to hate twitter and “cancel culture”, this site isn’t much different anymore. Hot takes and hate took over. No fruitful discussions anymore, just negativity.
Again, I’m not defending Summrs or Kankan’s actions at all. I promise you this has tainted my ability to enjoy their music a lot.
But this situation made me realize how we as a whole forum shifted in the way we discuss music and make threads.
I’ve been wanting to put KTT on Slayworld for a whole year, I just never felt like making a thread because I could already predict the outcome of it. And if there’s one thing that makes us even worse than twitter, it’s when you’re not even able to discuss new music, on a MUSIC FORUM.
I don’t know if there’ll be another shift on the way we discuss music, but as long as it stays like this I’ll just be in my bubble of specific Artist threads. Because the actual state of this site is horrible and no fun at all
Realest thread this is why I don't f*** with this site like that anymore outside a few users and threads
- Mar 2, 2021
also "before know nothing else" by izaya out now
Mar 2, 2021I don't really understand how this thread is about the downfall of Soundcloud.
Are you saying that Soundcloud fell off because people are closed minded into checking new artists or because they keep getting cancelled?
If it's the former then KTT and social media to an extent has always been like this. There have always been "crate diggers" of KTT who actively look for upcoming artists and "wave riders" who only stan when it's cool to do so. I don't think the culture changed so much in the last 5 years in that regards. I do think blog era is completely different from now and the best era for underground artists to shine (because of Bandcamp which is by far the best music platform for artists and because it was less about image and memes and more about music).
If it's the latter, they usually get canceled for a reason so it's their fault, and you should've named the thread something cancel culture. Of course if it's a famous artist more people will defend them than a small artist just because they like the music and feel like they know them. I think there's a point to make about cancel culture and hive mind as a whole, but if they sexually harrased or something like that (which is usually the reason for cancelling) then I don't think it's that bad to cancel them? They should know better.
If it's about KTT caring about drama more than music. I agree KTT really cares about drama and the "hit threads" are either hot take threads created to stir up the pot or threads about artists involved in some drama. People like to argue and it makes for more avid discussion, you can't really argue that much when it comes to music (depends on the person) mostly it just comes down to, I like this or I don't.
- Mar 2, 2021·1 replyNeonNigga23
yea i agree there is enough good music to discuss but no major releases as of late so people just talk about the same thing
and tbh they will when the major thing drops do
just want the same artist to drop the same beats and say HARD or TRASH - haters are as guilty, they go woodwork until their obsession, name it drake or wtv, finally releases and they jump on it
Mar 2, 2021HeatwavesI remember the days when you thought you got into an artist early then u check ktt and theres already a 30 page thread filled with info, leaks and lowkey songs u wouldn't have unless digging. I attempted to bring the feeling back with the slay thread but... we saw how that turned out
slay was the best new thing in music. Such a f***ing shame smh
Mar 2, 2021great thread
- NeonNigga23 ♻️Mar 2, 2021·1 replyithaka
and tbh they will when the major thing drops do
just want the same artist to drop the same beats and say HARD or TRASH - haters are as guilty, they go woodwork until their obsession, name it drake or wtv, finally releases and they jump on it
idk man we will see
- NeonNigga23 ♻️Mar 2, 2021Heatwaves
I remember the days when you thought you got into an artist early then u check ktt and theres already a 30 page thread filled with info, leaks and lowkey songs u wouldn't have unless digging. I attempted to bring the feeling back with the slay thread but... we saw how that turned out
i've been thinking of making a thread where people make 1 post a week or so detailing an artist who has crazy potential or who is next up or whatever. call it "ktt spotlight" or whatever
- Mar 2, 2021NeonNigga23
idk man we will see
- Mar 12, 2021
Mar 12, 2021I can't believe I gave op a chance and he posts all that headass s***
if you don't care about what they do good for you keep listening but I don't care about any artist old or new if they're f***ed up irl. Chris Brown, R Kelly, Lana Del Rey or Camila Cabello or anyone 
you can pick 2 comments to back up your narrative but that doesn't speak for me or all of ktt
Mar 12, 2021HeatwavesI remember the days when you thought you got into an artist early then u check ktt and theres already a 30 page thread filled with info, leaks and lowkey songs u wouldn't have unless digging. I attempted to bring the feeling back with the slay thread but... we saw how that turned out
those were the days
Mar 12, 2021
PUYOL2ngl ktt threads these days just follow a script. You can always almost predict what’s going to be said (and when) before you start reading replies.
The Game.jpeg
Meek mill fries
Tory Lanez manlet
What else
Mar 12, 2021“Niggas on this site pick & choose when to let s*** slide and when not to“
OP, there’s never going to be a change to the dynamic you outline above - ever. There will never be a uniform line of behaviors or ideology that we effectively enforce or center ourselves around. Maybe if we weren’t raised as individualists from birth, but that can’t be reversed. The best we can do is decide where we stand as individuals on a case by case basis and attempt to amalgamate that ethical “line” with the rest of the millions of other individuals we exist around and with
- Mar 12, 2021
The best one can ever hope for is a loose coalition of scorn, there can never be a hard line for “this is worth being driven out of our culture” and “this isn’t worth that”