While I don't think looking to artists to be a voice for the masses is an absurd thing and it is definitely something that should be encouraged, because like you said there's precedent for it. I still dont think it should be their responsibility or something to criticize them for if they dont. For every Nina Simones, Fela Kutis, Harry Belafontes during those times, there were probably significantly more artists that didn't use their art in the same manner. Which is why the former stood out.
Because there's just people who aren't equipped to utilize their art as medium for political thought and when they attempt to, they look and sound crazy....La Russell for example.
And the artists that are capable of doing so, are more hesitatant to do so because how music listeners are in this day and age. They dont really want political and concious music all that much. And when they do get it, they nitpick it a part to pieces. That shift happened back in 2016 tbh. I think we give artists and labels a lot of s*** but not nearly enough smoke to the fans and listeners for how that type of music is received.
i see what you're saying but isn't this a logical trap?
essentially we're saying things can't change because they wont here. I think we need to move past explanations serving as excuses for this cultural moment
edit: i replied before you edited. Yeah i agree we need more people engaging critically as well
While I don't think looking to artists to be a voice for the masses is an absurd thing and it is definitely something that should be encouraged, because like you said there's precedent for it. I still dont think it should be their responsibility or something to criticize them for if they dont. For every Nina Simones, Fela Kutis, Harry Belafontes during those times, there were probably significantly more artists that didn't use their art in the same manner. Which is why the former stood out.
Because there's just people who aren't equipped to utilize their art as medium for political thought and when they attempt to, they look and sound crazy....La Russell for example.
And the artists that are capable of doing so, are more hesitatant to do so because how music listeners are in this day and age. They dont really want political and concious music all that much. And when they do get it, they nitpick it a part to pieces. That shift happened back in 2016 tbh. I think we give artists and labels a lot of s*** but not nearly enough smoke to the fans and listeners for how that type of music is received.
You stated this well
everyone i know who has to tour to make a living, has fully turned on their own passion.
whenever i talk to them they just tell me how much they struggle with keeping up with their schedule and how sad it makes them to have to constantly do "x,y, and z" because they're in their 30s and now don't really have any other career options.
s*** is mad depressing
boooo. i'd rather listen to Hov than you tbh
hahahah yea man isn’t jay z the best !!! haha yeah new york !! and crack and yea
s*** is mad depressing
like literally some of these people's realities is that they're mid 30s have a mortgage and a kid on the way and their only marketable skill is that they're good at Djing -
it sounds kafka-esque
hahahah yea man isn’t jay z the best !!! haha yeah new york !! and crack and yea
Hahaha isnt random ktt poster the best! Mike dean and idol worship! People who beat poverty suck eggs! Stay down there!
i think you should engage sincerely with this topic and maybe reflect on why you're defending someone who's a zionist shill that's sold out a lot of people a little bit of money
I would respond respectfully but your post is not even in this universe so nah
People spent the last 10 years calling conscious/political music lame and try hard now this is where we are. The listeners just don’t have an appetite for it and the aspiring rappers we have now weren’t influenced by it enough to incorporate it into their music.
The void that conscious music used to fill in the culture entertainment space has been filled by comedians and podcasters. Many of them being grifters and already bought and paid for
I would respond respectfully but your post is not even in this universe so nah
bait -> alt -> boring gimick -> simps for billionaires -> cool !
like literally some of these people's realities is that they're mid 30s have a mortgage and a kid on the way and their only marketable skill is that they're good at Djing -
it sounds kafka-esque
Like, you literally can't pivot into anything because everything around you will crumble if you pause for a moment
I would respond respectfully but your post is not even in this universe so nah
what universe do you live in? cause in mine s***'s pretty bad over here
Like, you literally can't pivot into anything because everything around you will crumble if you pause for a moment
yeah actually
bait -> alt -> boring gimick -> simps for billionaires -> cool !
Yeah you are insane
Too much internet did this to you
Yeah you are insane
Too much internet did this to you
idk i think you have no real opinions and resort to deflection.
idk i think you have no real opinions and resort to deflection.
Your right i have nothing to offer but you. You have less than nothing . You are the reason why people hate acting “woke” because of you. Like jay z is the devil and the reason why gas is high and your “universe is bad” aight
i see what you're saying but isn't this a logical trap?
essentially we're saying things can't change because they wont here. I think we need to move past explanations serving as excuses for this cultural moment
edit: i replied before you edited. Yeah i agree we need more people engaging critically as well
It can change. It should be encouraged for artists to make art that speak of the times. During 2020 we had artists of all types speaking about the protests with their music.
Artists were inspired and the fans were willing to receive it.
I mean it all feels very late Bush years. Like 2006 specifically, s*** wasn’t working domestically or abroad and no one was saying s*** about it and everyone thought they were the only ones struggling.
Only difference now is social media allows everyone to compare notes and talk about how much s*** sucks
Songs like “Had a bad day” and “waiting on the world to change” were huge then.
Your right i have nothing to offer but you. You have less than nothing . You are the reason why people hate acting “woke” because of you. Like jay z is the devil and the reason why gas is high and your “universe is bad” aight
okay you've gotten enough attention. if this is your socio-political acumen i'm sorry because life is going to be really really hard
okay you've gotten enough attention. if this is your socio-political acumen i'm sorry because life is going to be really really hard
im almost 40 bro. sorry I like to problem solve when life gets hard and not blame Jay Z.
im almost 40 bro. sorry I like to problem solve when life gets hard and not blame Jay Z.
I'm sorry that you're 40
Capitalism is a system of production, it’s not tangential to social issues but fundamental, since social conditions remain determined (and determinative of) a foundational system of material economics and production.
The production and use of culture and technology must be viewed through the lens of capitalism.
I think the emphasis should be less on the fundamental system and more on human nature and holding people accountable, no kings type s***, no man should be idolized
Imo the big problem is wealth inequality
Eh, i think blaming capitalism for every woe of humanity is sorta lazy
A lot of things that are tangental to capitalism have been very problematic i.e. technology, death of culture etc
its the harmony of capitalism and imperialism/ white supremacy
I think the emphasis should be less on the fundamental system and more on human nature and holding people accountable, no kings type s***, no man should be idolized
Imo the big problem is wealth inequality
but income inequality is integral to the function of capitalism.
the system relies on inequality inherrently.