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  • Billy woods literally one of the most talented writers in music i have ever heard and im nearing forty
    He was just called “average” by an internet poster man life aint fair i tell ya

  • AND THAT DUDE WAS YAPPING ABOUT G HERBO LIKE HE NAS OMGGGGGGG

  • cooper flagg fan

    Woah woah he might not be popping but he aint average my bro
    Try listening and tell me who else rapping like that? Elite s*** my boy

    I heard that one tape with the pigs cover Didn’t move me tbh

  • Kdot we got work to do...

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    We need music that’s both FUN and has a MESSAGE. That’s why you should stream my album available everywhere

    open.spotify.com/album/6G7b2IfIwgw5oHc5w86CMu?si=se7I_QndSMe2Kigq-5dVVg

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    I always think of this David Lynch clip when people talk about a "political voice" (or some equivalent) in art or music

    Importantly art and music should be inspired and honest and come from your perspective, "conscious rappers" and old soul singers lived in a more integrated culture where politics and social issues were a consistent talking point, so they were making music that reflected their reality and what they saw with their own eyes

    For a young rapper today who become successful from social media I think it's needlessly harsh to say they're all "bought and paid for" when they were never going to make that kind of music in the first place, their lives and algorithms don't intersect with politics or social issues, rappers today are middle class and apolitical

    Political rap songs (and most politically themed songs in general) hit hardest when its not coming from a theoretical place, all the people in the thread doing the communist word salad miss that, Tupac's socially conscious songs work best because he's speaking about realities he witnessed and saw with his own eyes and not because he knows the terminology to signal that he read a few tweets summarising Karl Marx

  • Mar 25
    HBDUSA

    TLDR F*** Jay-Z

    🐐

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    glassrainbow

    We need music that’s both FUN and has a MESSAGE. That’s why you should stream my album available everywhere

    https://open.spotify.com/album/6G7b2IfIwgw5oHc5w86CMu?si=se7I_QndSMe2Kigq-5dVVg

    Hell yeah

    Except f*** Spotify

  • Uouj

    The “vibes” music took over and any political or conscious music was clowned as “scaring the hoes music “

    Hip Hop has been restricted to vibes, strip clubs, IG twerking soundtracks and Drill.

    The goal of streaming is to turn music into a background filler

  • When we needed Cole the most he showed up spitting

    At one time, my neck and wrist was havin' so much ice / You'd think I'm gettin' dudes deported to a borderin' turf

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    Jim Halpert

    Hell yeah

    Except f*** Spotify

    What do you use I’ll send a different link

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    Great points op. Sometime between the end of the 90s and early 2000s hip hop was hijacked and instead of resistance music you got materialism and glorification of crime, gangs and violence. All by design

    This idea that "rappers make music about what they know" yeah they only know that s*** because of systemic oppression and you're encouraged to maintain that lifestyle instead of overcoming it or fighting for change. Pretty sure I saw something in the Epstein files about jay z being one of the early puppets in this transition

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    glassrainbow

    What do you use I’ll send a different link

    iPod classic. So I’d just buy it if it’s good.

  • Mar 25

    Thinkpieces won’t change the order of the universe

    That voice will come when it comes, even if it comes after you die

    don’t beat yourself up about it

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    Emotion

    Great points op. Sometime between the end of the 90s and early 2000s hip hop was hijacked and instead of resistance music you got materialism and glorification of crime, gangs and violence. All by design

    This idea that "rappers make music about what they know" yeah they only know that s*** because of systemic oppression and you're encouraged to maintain that lifestyle instead of overcoming it or fighting for change. Pretty sure I saw something in the Epstein files about jay z being one of the early puppets in this transition

    This is conspiracy theory bullshit tbh. If you were alive in the 2010s / early 2020s you heard all kinds of commercial rappers making political music for gods sake Ski Mask the Slump god even did it. YG and Nipsey made a F*** Donald Trump.

    George Floyd protests gave us a lot of music and SoundCloud rappers had everybody in Kluxbusters hoodies

    When it’s time it will come.

  • HBDUSA 🇺🇸
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    yesac

    I always think of this David Lynch clip when people talk about a "political voice" (or some equivalent) in art or music

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PotoKBIIS-k

    Importantly art and music should be inspired and honest and come from your perspective, "conscious rappers" and old soul singers lived in a more integrated culture where politics and social issues were a consistent talking point, so they were making music that reflected their reality and what they saw with their own eyes

    For a young rapper today who become successful from social media I think it's needlessly harsh to say they're all "bought and paid for" when they were never going to make that kind of music in the first place, their lives and algorithms don't intersect with politics or social issues, rappers today are middle class and apolitical

    Political rap songs (and most politically themed songs in general) hit hardest when its not coming from a theoretical place, all the people in the thread doing the communist word salad miss that, Tupac's socially conscious songs work best because he's speaking about realities he witnessed and saw with his own eyes and not because he knows the terminology to signal that he read a few tweets summarising Karl Marx

    Well what David’s saying doesn’t have much application to this topic. He’s talking about how he makes art, but thats looking on the micro level where this is a macro topic. And even still, his art did touch on societal issues.

    This isn’t about so and so artist should be Bob Dylan. It’s about how the industry as a whole has been disconnected from the common person. We have nothing compared to the past.

    No I don’t want disingenuous art, I don’t think anyone’s asking artists to make art they don’t believe in. But it’s telling that artists speak from their perspective and none of them speak from ours anymore.

    soul singers lived in a more integrated culture where politics and social issues were a consistent talking point

    I do not know what world you’re living in where politics and social issues aren’t a consistent talking point. And I don’t know what world you live in where the “middle class” isn’t being eroded away.

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    Mar 25
    Babaláwo

    Why is Jay Z the first person you think of when you say F*** Billionaires?

    He’s not and no one said that. He just said some bullshit in an interview yesterday

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    Broscodolo

    This is conspiracy theory bullshit tbh. If you were alive in the 2010s / early 2020s you heard all kinds of commercial rappers making political music for gods sake Ski Mask the Slump god even did it. YG and Nipsey made a F*** Donald Trump.

    George Floyd protests gave us a lot of music and SoundCloud rappers had everybody in Kluxbusters hoodies

    When it’s time it will come.

    most users are just parroting bullshit they heard online about hiphop and don’t actually take time to honestly observe and critique the s*** they are saying lmfao. is what it is online

    we’ve gone from hiphop police, to CIA assets, to Epstein files

    dudes never learn and just move on to the next conspiracy

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    BrainWorms4U

    Good doc yall should check out when you have the time that kinda deals with this topic.

    Talks about revolutionary American and African Jazz artists in the early 60s but also the ones who were coopted by the CIA to help colonize Africa even further when Patrice Lumumba became PM of the congo

    I actually started watching this last week because someone else had previously recommended it. I got like 30 minutes left

  • Valentine

    most users are just parroting bullshit they heard online about hiphop and don’t actually take time to honestly observe and critique the s*** they are saying lmfao. is what it is online

    we’ve gone from hiphop police, to CIA assets, to Epstein files

    dudes never learn and just move on to the next conspiracy

    Fr lol like it’s not that deep at all. Whole thread on bullshit tbh

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    Valentine

    The Bigger Picture, June 2020

    yes, they definitely can and choose not to

    nigga stop it

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    afterimage

    nigga stop it

    what did I say wrong? he made a song motivated by George Floyd’s killing after protesting in ATL with proceeds going to Breonna Taylor family, the Bail Project and other black causes and chose to not continue that messaging after doing so lol

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    Valentine

    what did I say wrong? he made a song motivated by George Floyd’s killing after protesting in ATL with proceeds going to Breonna Taylor family, the Bail Project and other black causes and chose to not continue that messaging after doing so lol

    I just thought baby could’ve done more with it to be political

  • Mar 25
    afterimage

    I just thought baby could’ve done more with it to be political

    I agree dawg, is what it is I guess. he did more than most, even though it’s nowhere near enough

  • Jim Halpert

    iPod classic. So I’d just buy it if it’s good.

    music.apple.com/ng/album/the-new-era-deluxe/1803773269

    Thanks hope you enjoy
    If you want a preview here’s a music video