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  • May 31, 2020
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    Like this is the equivalent of removing the word "Stop" on a Stop sign.

    Just remove the "Do not Enter" on the DNE sign

    Like OP, its a cute idea, but you have to realize that warning labels aren't for your artistic satisfaction. Literally stripping the words off a logo is an incredibly bad idea.

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    KuntaKinte

    Like this is the equivalent of removing the word "Stop" on a Stop sign.

    Just remove the "Do not Enter" on the DNE sign

    Like OP, its a cute idea, but you have to realize that warning labels aren't for your artistic satisfaction. Literally stripping the words off a logo is an incredibly bad idea.

    @KuntaKinte

    packaged food products sold in South Asian countries are required to be labelled with a mandatory mark in order be distinguished between vegetarian and non-vegetarian

    the green dot in the top right corner signifies that the snack is not animal-derived

    implemented in 2006, these symbols originally included text when they were debuted in order to specify their identification

    however, as consumers became initiated with the colored symbols, the logo’s lettering was eventually deemed nonessential and was ultimately scrapped in the final rendering

    in Greece, a color-coded geometric system is used to rate a film’s suitability. similarly, specifying text was abandoned in further iterations of the symbols as mass literacy was achieved

    the only detractors were those who contended that this form of identification was non-inclusive to the colorblind community. this is a legitimate claim but it isn’t applicable to the PAL, as the sticker is in black and white which incidentally makes it an even better candidate for a minimalistic treatment

    i feel like a lot of y’alls resistance to the idea stems from being american and thus normalizing your country’s insularized worldview. the USA's refusal to integrate with the global paradigm of creating universal symbols that transcend borders and language is a product of it’s underlying ethnocentrism. it does not want to sacrifice its hegemonic grip on language and instead chauvinistically retains a defunct philosophy regarding symbology

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    @zznn you're raising valid points but god that last paragraph is so pretentious lmao.

    Again, the difference with these symbols were that they were introduced with the intention of being distinctive with its iconography. the important part of those South Asian food labels were the green and red dots, not the text, same with those shapes. Like I said before, the black and white stripes of the PA logo are incidental. The logo could be reduced, I agree with you, but you're focusing on the wrong aspect. Why not just have the tag reduced to just a black box that says EXPLICIT on it?

    I think you're adding too much weight to the graphical merits of the logo, and the intention of the logo. If you asked around, I guarantee you what draws people to that logo is the text, and not the black and white bars. In fact, I'm sure a lot of people would incorrectly give you the order of the colors on the bar.

  • Jun 1, 2020

    Yuck

  • Jun 1, 2020
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    It’s not a bad thought but by removing the text your concept has a much higher contrast ratio and draws the viewer’s eye to itself and distracts from the artwork much more than the original. That’s ultimately where it fails.

    Source: am UX designer

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    @chuckienugget

    "like I said before, the black and white stripes of the PA logo are incidental”

    actually no

    the og logo was revised because it was considered too subtle for a warning label

    the stark black and white bars were intentionally crafted precisely to make the sticker more eye-catching

    they aren't incidental, they're indispensable

  • Jun 1, 2020

    if it aint broke, don't fix it

  • Jun 1, 2020
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    @chuckienugget

    "like I said before, the black and white stripes of the PA logo are incidental”

    actually no

    the og logo was revised because it was considered too subtle for a warning label

    the stark black and white bars were intentionally crafted precisely to make the sticker more eye-catching

    they aren't incidental, they're indispensable

    Incidental in the sense that they’re used to supplement the text. They have no real meaning on their own. And yes I know you’re gonna now say that semiotics are man made and evolve and so on... but again that goes on to my point about what aspect of the logo is actually identifiable. The text or the bars?
    I also think it’s important to note that again, the purpose of the sticker is for consumers who are uninformed and not necessarily buying it for themselves. Those food logos and stop signs and whatever are all created to be relevant to the primary consumer of the product, so it’s more likely they’d be informed of the symbolic meaning of those graphics.

  • zzounn

    that was actually the plan, i only introduced the stripped PAL first to establish it as a precursor

    the text-free PAL would function as a subdued backdrop on which artists could emblazon their respective virtual avatars onto. the PAL already commands redundant real estate on album artwork, so i envisioned that space becoming dual-purpose

    something like this:

  • Oct 7, 2020

    The PA stickers are stupid and unnecessary anyway, but I like when artists play with them and do an interesting variation. I wouldn't mind seeing your version on some album. Nice a***ysis too

  • Oct 7, 2020

    One of them “minimalism, DONDA” types

  • Oct 7, 2020

    Op definitely thought he had one

  • Parental Advisory label too iconic, hopefully it never changes

  • Oct 7, 2020

    Enjoying your first semiotics class OP?

  • Yzy prntl dvsry

  • Oct 7, 2020

    Nah but it was a start

    You have a vision so keep working at it brother

    Take the criticisms but ignore the weird haters in here, they always hate on you until you blow up

  • Oct 7, 2020
    Freight

    It’s not a bad thought but by removing the text your concept has a much higher contrast ratio and draws the viewer’s eye to itself and distracts from the artwork much more than the original. That’s ultimately where it fails.

    Source: am UX designer

  • Oct 7, 2020
    zzounn

    not really bc the main reason i made it tho was to serve as an unobtrusive backdrop on which to superimpose an artist’s virtual avatar onto

    like an icon denoting ownership of the music

    i think that's the future of packaging music

    something like this:

  • Oct 7, 2020
    zzounn

    not really bc the main reason i made it tho was to serve as an unobtrusive backdrop on which to superimpose an artist’s virtual avatar onto

    like an icon denoting ownership of the music

    i think that's the future of packaging music

    something like this:

    WHAT??????

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