Dec 5, 2023
ryo hazukiNav invented
post nav switching the beat when they least expect it
Dec 5, 2023You mean the Sicko Mode formula that Drake been running into the dirt.
Dec 5, 2023·1 replyanother great vid
as an artist that does hella beat switches (lmao) there’s always an intention behind it but i see more and more artists lack intention when they do it
Dec 5, 2023·1 replywillcherryanother great vid
as an artist that does hella beat switches (lmao) there’s always an intention behind it but i see more and more artists lack intention when they do it
that's a hard thing to judge, don't you think? you can dislike the way it's executed...but intention?
Dec 5, 2023
Kellzz
!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IV-XT27UOHo!https://youtu.be/sIBxMdm6NSQ?si=9f3crZmz3AN0J5Mk
The beat switches on here and nwts moved mountains.
- Dec 5, 2023·3 repliesp r o v i d e r
that's a hard thing to judge, don't you think? you can dislike the way it's executed...but intention?
yeah it is a hard thing to judge
i really just assume it’s not done with intention because great beat switches usually:
- are in the same key as the first part of the song
- continue and build on what the first half is setting up musically or lyrically
- are designed to garner a reaction from you, either by being unpredictable musically or just the content of what’s being said
a lot of beat switches from a lot of guys rn are just combining two random songs. i feel a similar way about sequencing an album, a lot of artists care about having a strong intro and outro but the pacing/key choices/storytelling can lack. to me, if you go into these things with the intention to make something well thought and great, you’ll be a lot closer to that on the spectrum than a lot of stuff is
Dec 5, 2023
Will Fujiwarai agree tbh. i prefer gradual changes in the beat instead of just flat out swapping beats
Yeah basically just good songwriting vs lazy songwriting a lot of the time
Dec 5, 2023i honestly don’t mind it. just pretend like it’s 2 separate songs
Dec 5, 2023
sabbaronican we stop calling them “beat switches” and start calling them “hidden tracks” again?? it’s not a beat switch if it’s clearly two separate songs
is the second half of Life is Good considered a "hidden track"?
- Dec 5, 2023willcherry
yeah it is a hard thing to judge
i really just assume it’s not done with intention because great beat switches usually:
- are in the same key as the first part of the song
- continue and build on what the first half is setting up musically or lyrically
- are designed to garner a reaction from you, either by being unpredictable musically or just the content of what’s being said
a lot of beat switches from a lot of guys rn are just combining two random songs. i feel a similar way about sequencing an album, a lot of artists care about having a strong intro and outro but the pacing/key choices/storytelling can lack. to me, if you go into these things with the intention to make something well thought and great, you’ll be a lot closer to that on the spectrum than a lot of stuff is
for example:
both of these songs have 4 different beats in them, but i did it to highlight different parts of the stories im telling and evoke different emotions, and i feel like people received it that way
Dec 5, 2023·1 reply
Marblethe Weekend himself needs to go back to doing them. He did it one time in the last 5 years on the After Hours title track and its easily his best song of that period.
Lowkey the stretch of Best Friends -> Is There Someone Else? -> Starry Eyes feels like one big song with two beat switches, I always listen to those three songs in a row.
But yeah, The Weeknd is definitely one artist who always has some masterful beat switches
- Dec 5, 2023!https://youtu.be/NGH9svuuoUshadji
today i delved into how i think the beat switch has gotten kinda lazy in recent years. but im not a Professional Hater so i spend most of the video looking at the beat switch's roots back in the origins of hip-hop, and appreciating some of the better ones we've had (in all genres)
what do you think? are you tired of seeing a certain song on a tracklist and thinking, yeah they definitely slapped two unfinished songs together? or do you still enjoy that lil shock value?
I definitely appreciate it when it’s done thoughtfully and actually fleshed out, but it does feel like in certain years artists on relying on it too much as a crutch.
I love Utopia but one of my gripes about that album is that there are too many unnecessary beat switches. Feels like there’s one on almost every single song. If you’re gonna do it, it should be something used sparingly on an album so it feels special and doesn’t get exhausting.
Honestly nowadays I think transitions can be more rewarding and fulfilling than a beat switch. Look at Heroes & Villains. That album plays perfectly start to finish because of the sequencing and flawless transitions from song to song, and there’s only two true beat switches on the entire album. Same with Dawn FM. No beat switches but the transitions make that album such a joy to listen to.
- Dec 5, 2023willcherry
yeah it is a hard thing to judge
i really just assume it’s not done with intention because great beat switches usually:
- are in the same key as the first part of the song
- continue and build on what the first half is setting up musically or lyrically
- are designed to garner a reaction from you, either by being unpredictable musically or just the content of what’s being said
a lot of beat switches from a lot of guys rn are just combining two random songs. i feel a similar way about sequencing an album, a lot of artists care about having a strong intro and outro but the pacing/key choices/storytelling can lack. to me, if you go into these things with the intention to make something well thought and great, you’ll be a lot closer to that on the spectrum than a lot of stuff is
with all of that in mind, i guess i was trying to say that the artist can have a completely coherent vision in their mind as to how their music works within itself. and we as listeners get to feel how we feel about it, but since the artist is the closest to the work i'd be less inclined to say something like a 2-part song lacks intention. but it's a good point about album sequencing, something that i do tend to question sometimes. it's all the same i guess
- Dec 5, 2023shaleirose
Lowkey the stretch of Best Friends -> Is There Someone Else? -> Starry Eyes feels like one big song with two beat switches, I always listen to those three songs in a row.
But yeah, The Weeknd is definitely one artist who always has some masterful beat switches
Starry Eyes into Every Angel is Terrifying is a great transition as well tbh.
- Dec 5, 2023willcherry
yeah it is a hard thing to judge
i really just assume it’s not done with intention because great beat switches usually:
- are in the same key as the first part of the song
- continue and build on what the first half is setting up musically or lyrically
- are designed to garner a reaction from you, either by being unpredictable musically or just the content of what’s being said
a lot of beat switches from a lot of guys rn are just combining two random songs. i feel a similar way about sequencing an album, a lot of artists care about having a strong intro and outro but the pacing/key choices/storytelling can lack. to me, if you go into these things with the intention to make something well thought and great, you’ll be a lot closer to that on the spectrum than a lot of stuff is
a lot of beat switches from a lot of guys rn are just combining two random songs.
Life is Good is the biggest offender of this for me. Song is dope but it’s literally just an unfinished Drake song and an unfinished Future song slapped together
Dec 5, 2023·1 replysabbaroniSicko Mode did irreparable damage to the narrative around “beat switches”
That song was 3 songs. Drake is the one who actually had beat switches
- Dec 5, 2023SyIIabIes
That song was 3 songs. Drake is the one who actually had beat switches
i liked the first part the most
Dec 5, 2023·1 replyYou are so right about All The Parties
Dec 5, 2023Def prefer when they just cut the drums out to emphasize what they're saying. Less of a gimmick. Works especially well on this collab where Gibbs is double time and Jenkins sounds calm for one of the only times on the album
Dec 5, 2023!https://youtu.be/NGH9svuuoUshadjitoday i delved into how i think the beat switch has gotten kinda lazy in recent years. but im not a Professional Hater so i spend most of the video looking at the beat switch's roots back in the origins of hip-hop, and appreciating some of the better ones we've had (in all genres)
what do you think? are you tired of seeing a certain song on a tracklist and thinking, yeah they definitely slapped two unfinished songs together? or do you still enjoy that lil shock value?
Travis and Drake are suspect 1 and 2 of this terrible trend
- Dec 5, 2023hadji
i didnt format it in that sense but some of the ones i talked about were the weeknd party / the after party + house of balloons/glass table girls, frank ocean - nights and pyramids, and some of th e recent kendrick/baby keem ones.+ pop out - lil baby & nardo wick
and i bigged up some songs that are more transitional rather than a jarring beat switch, like a lot of the tracks on drake's nwts
I think pop out with Nardo and Lil Baby is one of the worst but it is what it is
- Dec 5, 2023
one of the best beat switches ever tbh. I thought couldn't get any more hype and then it gets more hype
- Dec 5, 2023·1 replylacriminal
You are so right about All The Parties
i have been yelling this s*** from the rooftops since the day the album dropped lmao
Dec 5, 2023good work
Dec 5, 2023·1 replysabbaronican we stop calling them “beat switches” and start calling them “hidden tracks” again?? it’s not a beat switch if it’s clearly two separate songs
jay z used to end his albums with hidden tracks was so amazing i used to love seeking thru tracks on a CD player
