Aug 20, 2020·2 replies
spongebobYeah it's definitely clear that that's what he was implying, because there's not a lot of things besides really-personal business he won't say on air,
kinda wack but it is what it is...
Also I mean it's worth looking at why Drake succeeded where Wayne didn't but they might have 2 leave some of that s*** out
A big reason why Wayne failed is because he came into the industry at 12 years old, he had no leverage, and he was signing to a father figure who he put 100% of his trust in. The same dude who ended up f***ing him and a lot of other people over.
Drake was coming off of SFG and was hot at the time, so he had the leverage to get him a good deal. He was also like 23.
I think Wayne would have ended up better if he he Signed to Jay instead and waited til he was older
Aug 20, 2020·2 repliesCactusJackSentYaNot sure what you mean by "control the narrative". But most people just want it because Joe Budden is entertaining.
Drake would never do an interview where he could be possibly attacked or be questioned on certain s*** he has done in the past. Joe wouldn’t be allowed to be Joe if he interviewed Drake. Drake would never let Joe press him on certain things.
- Aug 20, 2020CactusJackSentYa
A big reason why Wayne failed is because he came into the industry at 12 years old, he had no leverage, and he was signing to a father figure who he put 100% of his trust in. The same dude who ended up f***ing him and a lot of other people over.
Drake was coming off of SFG and was hot at the time, so he had the leverage to get him a good deal. He was also like 23.
I think Wayne would have ended up better if he he Signed to Jay instead and waited til he was older
Def. agree
- Aug 20, 2020allmygirlsdoyoga
Drake would never do an interview where he could be possibly attacked or be questioned on certain s*** he has done in the past. Joe wouldn’t be allowed to be Joe if he interviewed Drake. Drake would never let Joe press him on certain things.
all facts
- Aug 20, 2020·3 repliesallmygirlsdoyoga
Drake would never do an interview where he could be possibly attacked or be questioned on certain s*** he has done in the past. Joe wouldn’t be allowed to be Joe if he interviewed Drake. Drake would never let Joe press him on certain things.
This doesn't make sense because his most recent interviews, people have asked him about s*** that everyone wanted him to speak on. What it sounds like you want is someone who's gonna ask about some nonsense like the grooming s***, just to get a soundbite. Like why would you do an interview with someone you know is going to Sabotage you (this is why he stopped doing Rollingstone interviews because they've done some sneaky s***)
Like in the Semtex interview, Drake got asked about QM, X and Meek. S*** a lot of people wanted to know about.
In the Rap Radar interview, people asked about the Push s***. Something people wanted him to speak on.
Aug 20, 2020CactusJackSentYaNot sure what you mean by "control the narrative". But most people just want it because Joe Budden is entertaining.
The questions being asked, the way theyre asked and the amount of pushback to whatever Drake answers with is all controlled.
- Aug 20, 2020·editedCactusJackSentYa
This doesn't make sense because his most recent interviews, people have asked him about s*** that everyone wanted him to speak on. What it sounds like you want is someone who's gonna ask about some nonsense like the grooming s***, just to get a soundbite. Like why would you do an interview with someone you know is going to Sabotage you (this is why he stopped doing Rollingstone interviews because they've done some sneaky s***)
Like in the Semtex interview, Drake got asked about QM, X and Meek. S*** a lot of people wanted to know about.
In the Rap Radar interview, people asked about the Push s***. Something people wanted him to speak on.
Imagine they interview and they both come in with that type of hat and beard
"Joseph"
"Aubrey"
- Aug 20, 2020·1 reply
And thats not exclusive to Drake, its just the state of celebrity journalism. But Joe isnt getting a real interview with Drake, not the one he wants.
They talked about all this when the elliot interview came out.
- Aug 20, 2020Glocki
And thats not exclusive to Drake, its just the state of celebrity journalism. But Joe isnt getting a real interview with Drake, not the one he wants.
They talked about all this when the elliot interview came out.
do you remember what episode? I guess I could check the date of the elliot interview and find the pod for that date too hold up - Aug 20, 2020·edited·1 reply
Like imagine walking into an interview as one of the biggest artists in the world and the interviewer hits you with
"So Drake, did ya kill x"
"You and Millie Bobby Brown f***in?"
"Where's you son"
"Why you making OVO do slave labor"
Or any of the other stuff you find people talking about online
Aug 20, 2020·edited·1 replyCactusJackSentYaA big reason why Wayne failed is because he came into the industry at 12 years old, he had no leverage, and he was signing to a father figure who he put 100% of his trust in. The same dude who ended up f***ing him and a lot of other people over.
Drake was coming off of SFG and was hot at the time, so he had the leverage to get him a good deal. He was also like 23.
I think Wayne would have ended up better if he he Signed to Jay instead and waited til he was older
SFG didn’t help Drake from getting out of his Cash Money contract lol.
That’s a whole higher power.
- Aug 20, 2020·1 replyCactusJackSentYa
This doesn't make sense because his most recent interviews, people have asked him about s*** that everyone wanted him to speak on. What it sounds like you want is someone who's gonna ask about some nonsense like the grooming s***, just to get a soundbite. Like why would you do an interview with someone you know is going to Sabotage you (this is why he stopped doing Rollingstone interviews because they've done some sneaky s***)
Like in the Semtex interview, Drake got asked about QM, X and Meek. S*** a lot of people wanted to know about.
In the Rap Radar interview, people asked about the Push s***. Something people wanted him to speak on.
Drake addressing s*** in a PR way where he's prepared and knows all the questions is nothing like joe just asking him things off the cuff. Drake will never do that
- Aug 20, 2020·1 replyBabaláwo
SFG didn’t help Drake from getting out of his Cash Money contract lol.
That’s a whole higher power.
What?
IIRC he gave them the amount of albums he was supposed to
You implying the jewish elites just helped him get out of that deal lol?
- Aug 20, 2020·2 repliesCactusJackSentYa
This doesn't make sense because his most recent interviews, people have asked him about s*** that everyone wanted him to speak on. What it sounds like you want is someone who's gonna ask about some nonsense like the grooming s***, just to get a soundbite. Like why would you do an interview with someone you know is going to Sabotage you (this is why he stopped doing Rollingstone interviews because they've done some sneaky s***)
Like in the Semtex interview, Drake got asked about QM, X and Meek. S*** a lot of people wanted to know about.
In the Rap Radar interview, people asked about the Push s***. Something people wanted him to speak on.
Lmao no the grooming s*** is just an internet meme.
But again, he only does interviews where he controls the narrative. I can assure you that Drake was likely well aware of the questions that were going to be asked in his interviews with Eliot, Semtex, and LeBron. Of course they’ll question him about any controversy or beef that he’s involved in, but they’ll only touch on certain aspects of it. For instance, they’d never question Drake on buying a signed Pusha T microphone off EBay or going at Kanye, when he should really be going at Pusha
- Aug 20, 2020·1 replyBANNED
Drake addressing s*** in a PR way where he's prepared and knows all the questions is nothing like joe just asking him things off the cuff. Drake will never do that
Joe is already really tame on the podcast when addressing things related to Drake.
- Aug 20, 2020allmygirlsdoyoga
Joe is already really tame on the podcast when addressing things related to Drake.
Fax. But that jewish s*** for example or getting push verses blocked from release would be a NO GO
- Aug 20, 2020·editedallmygirlsdoyoga
Lmao no the grooming s*** is just an internet meme.
But again, he only does interviews where he controls the narrative. I can assure you that Drake was likely well aware of the questions that were going to be asked in his interviews with Eliot, Semtex, and LeBron. Of course they’ll question him about any controversy or beef that he’s involved in, but they’ll only touch on certain aspects of it. For instance, they’d never question Drake on buying a signed Pusha T microphone off EBay or going at Kanye, when he should really be going at Pusha
That's has nothing to do with them as interviewer. That's just them not asking the specific questions that you want them to ask. They not gonna cover every single thing.
Like if Kanye or Push were to do an interview right now, I'd want them to ask about how Kanye claimed Drake bought rows at Push's show even tho that was impossible to do.
Or ask Push why he claimed Drake never wrote bars for Kanye, despite Kanye saying otherwise.
Like we can't sit here and say the narrative is being controlled just because interviewers don't ask specific "gotcha" questions fam.
Aug 20, 2020spongebob Maybe he just had better lawyers to negotiate his contracts, Wayne got into his s*** when he was like a pre-teen, they obv. manipulated that aspect to drain as much money off of him being the stand-out star This is also a big part lol. Birdman manipulated Wayne from the start, and from a kid he grew up idolizing him. With Birdman’s nature the only way this was going was how it went.
The crew under CM left for a reason, Wayne at the time had options that were better than where the rest went aka signing with Jay but remained loyal and Birdman gave the impressions of providing more than what he was offered. And again he had f***ing Tez and Mack Maine giving him advice on this.
Drake had already at least been in the industry even if not in a big part and i think had an idea of how things needed to go in his contracts and s***. Wayne figured Birdman was screwing him over in probably about 2011 cause the lawyer mentioned Wayne and him had been putting together their case since 2012 and didn’t make it public til 2014.
In the end it’s all about circumstance, Wayne a kid being manipulated as a kid and Drake already at least in Canada know how the industry works and able to go in with a team that knows as well. Wayne in the end got his independence, label, and masters but too late for him to truly capitalize imo.- Aug 20, 2020·1 reply
Like yo, how did Drake even get the Wayne connect in the first place, if he didn't develop some type of connections
Wayne was like top rapper when they first came together in the way they did, how did Drake reach the top/most popular rapper at the time before he was famous for music?
might be a dumb question if its widely known but also am thinking about how he was already in a good position if he connects with the most popular rapper at the time off the rip
Aug 20, 2020spongebobI also think Wayne was pretty deep into his career and potentially past his peak (if u consider carter 2 and 3 and some of the mixtapes roughly that period peak wayne) when a lot of the label issues blew up and became more of an issue that people knew more about
Like somebody said in the pod, might've been rory idr: Not everyone is Drake.
Even in 2010-2011 he was clearly one of the biggest stars and his trajectory had nowhere to go but up, meanwhile Wayne's career was cooling down plus his longer history w Birdman and Cash Money was prob holding him back in a few more ways
he sold a milli in 2011
- Aug 20, 2020spongebob
Ok u delusional on that last sentence, the rest I agree
shoutout to wayne but Drake literally has the most Billboard top 10s of all time over Madonna, beatles elvis, MJ
this coming from a non-stan Drake has been kinda mid for me for years but just had to say it
I guess I don't mean commercial Peak because of course Drake is a bigger commercial artist I think I meant to say pink in general because Lil Wayne had everyone listening to him Drake does but not at the same level and he is a safer and more marketable to white people
Aug 20, 2020·1 replyI know y’all prolly don’t care but Troy ave dropped a diss track about Joe and is talking reckless right now on Star’s show
- Aug 20, 2020SLAYER
I know y’all prolly don’t care but Troy ave dropped a diss track about Joe and is talking reckless right now on Star’s show
Troy Ave a goofy ass nigga, but he can spit
Even if that Capital Steez s*** was OUTTA pocket, that Joey Badazz diss was HARD af
- Aug 20, 2020·2 repliesCactusJackSentYa
What?
IIRC he gave them the amount of albums he was supposed to
You implying the jewish elites just helped him get out of that deal lol?
I ain’t say nothing about Jews. I’m just saying he definitely had direct help from someone with a lot more power than Birdman to get out of that contract. If turning in all the available albums was the simple requirement, we would be hearing about a lot less artist grievances with labels
- CKL TML 🌺Aug 20, 2020·1 replyBabaláwo
I ain’t say nothing about Jews. I’m just saying he definitely had direct help from someone with a lot more power than Birdman to get out of that contract. If turning in all the available albums was the simple requirement, we would be hearing about a lot less artist grievances with labels
How can they keep you around if you deliver the amount of albums you signed up for? Yall just making s*** up at this point