Better than being a loser loser tbf

Mfers claiming they commie but ain’t never starved a day in their life

It helps being a commie when you
Live at home with your parents

shouod you literally be homeless to be justified to be a commie?

dog s*** thread. You niggas are so re-ard-ed

What does being a "commie" have to do with being starved?

You do understand that socialism includes providing the less fortunate with the basic needs to live a good and equal life as everybody else, not "everybody is poor", right?

OP is a dumbass

Walk into your avg dsa rally in chicago or vegas or nyc

Then walk into your average mainstream liberal and republican rally/townhall

One skews richer and whiter and it ain’t the former...like we literally have data on this

OP is a british south asian please dnt listen to this dumbass

Im an african american leftist and literally left wing ideology is intertwined with modern black cultures all the way from africa to the americas like no other philosophy . We’re talking thomas sankara to mlk to malcolm x to jessie jackson i can go on all day

There is literally a documented tradition of this

Ive been noticing this insidious trend where people maliciously weaponise identity politics against left wing politics. A politics thats so tied to cultures and liberation movements of black and brown people globally and historically ...so you’re literally whitewashing us.

The few white leftists ik are poor or middle class. Dumbass, rich white people grow up to be the centrists and right wingers that continue to uphold the same policies that harm black and brown people wtf are u even talking about man

Privileged to you and privileged to me are different things altogether. To you a privileged person is a rich person. To me a privileged person is somebody who is white. Especially white people who have not struggled at all. A middle class white person is extremely privileged.

I tell people that if you build yourself within capitalism then you have something for them to take from you. I live in a caravan. They can't take a whole lot from somebody like me. I have no qualifications, no prospects and no way of fixing this. I have nothing to lose and I am willing to literally fight.

I ask communists and socialists all the time in the area what we should do. We agree we need to fight but when I suggest actually doing it and burning down institutions, everyone starts getting scared. Nobody wants to get arrested. Nobody wants to lose their job or get thrown out of uni.

Based on how upset you are, it sounds like the above might apply to you on some level.

The left is not above being criticised. I am a leftist myself. This is not an attack on the left.

If you cannot condition yourself to live without what you have, you will not have a good time trying a revolution. You have to condition yourself to have nothing. You have to take self responsibility and condition yourself for this because the state will take it right from you. Stop getting too comfortable.

But nobody wants to take that self responsibility. Because these people don't actually want what they propose. They don't want war with the state. They want some peaceful nonsense. Doesn't work like that. You have to be prepared and conditioned to lose everything. To go to prison. To be a terrorist. These are all things the state will do to you.

The idiots above thinks white middle classes would risk everything lmfao. They already have comfortable lives. Why would they risk that?

The point is that to bring about that political change, you need to go at war with the state and be prepared to lose everything. Somebody who has nothing will have no issue doing that. A person who has something will not fight for a communist cause because they are already made in the current system. Communism requires a militant attitude. People who have not struggled are not conditioned for that. If they are not conditioned for that then they are not going to risk getting out in prison, losing their job etc.

Bringing about this change is not as simple as convincing people to vote. It requires a direct and violent attack on the state.

If somebody isn't prepared to lose everything they have, communism is not for them.

People in here are angry at this because they know it applies to them.

Again i dont see why you keep conflating whiteness and privilege with leftists ideology.

White privilege isnt endemic to leftism or something I’m missing your point. Again bcus a 20 yr old dsnt actually wanna burn a police station (a lot of them actually are about that life in america, antifa has no problem confronting institutions of power and fascists during riots and protests over here) isn’t an indictment of left wing ideology as oppressive to POC u sound dense

Also y wouldn’t i be upset you’re whitewashing the only political movement that can actually uplift working people of color what lmao

Also im not a communist, or anarchist or even socialist necessarily. Im a social democrat so there’s no cognitive dissonance for me personally about not going and burning a police car or smth lol

I'm not doing that. I am actually doing the opposite. I am saying these people are not leftists and are frauds trivialising our cause. Throw the frauds out. They are weak and are trivialising our cause.

I'm not on the right. That is not what this thread is. I am not trivialising the left. You have misread the thread.

I care about this because I don't stand alongside weak frauds.

I mean sure, if you want a USSR type of country to happen in day and night. You need a "militant" mind.

But you can achieve similar results, but much slower, through political means.

Support more progressive leaders, spread the word of socialism and its benefits compared to the current system we have now.

You dont need to be "starved" to do that, or to have "struggled", or to be prepared to "lose everything".

Like richard wolff said, socialism is when the government does stuff, and the more stuff it does the more socialism it is. Thats all.

All we need is more people to be more educated in the situation and to help push for better policies that benefit the many and not the few.

I don't disagree with you here. I respect this stance. It is what most people need to do.

I have an issue with people acting militant when I know they are not about it. I don't want to see hyper militant people calling for riots if they are not out there doing it too. They should follow what you have put forth here. I respect it a lot and understand. It is a very viable solution for many people.

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I get what you mean by "militant minded role playing" too.

For example there are leftists that try to paint North Korea as a great country, simply coz its "communist", but you know damn well would never be able to live there for a month

Democrats =/= left

I see that a lot. I hate NK and China shills. They make us look bad. People who are interested in socialism and see benefits to it go to twitter and see lunatics on our side denying genocide in china and supporting NK. It is dumb. These people need to be thrown under the bus. They are not our mans.

There has to be objectivity.

Can’t have communism without starvation

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