<---me trying to understand this notion that it's YOU who's supposed to be the spokesperson for how communism should work in discourse and action
It is not me deciding it. Read the post. This is basic politics. Optics are everything. Bad optics = failure.
If you feel shilling China when nobody could give a f*** is beneficial to getting people on board, good on you. You're wrong. Good luck gaining followers. Really, I wish you luck. You are going to need it.
Don't speak down to me again. It's bad optics. My suggestion to you is look outside your bubble and start understanding perception and optics. It is extremely important in politics.
It is not me deciding it. Read the post. This is basic politics. Optics are everything. Bad optics = failure.
If you feel shilling China when nobody could give a f*** is beneficial to getting people on board, good on you. You're wrong. Good luck gaining followers. Really, I wish you luck. You are going to need it.
Don't speak down to me again. It's bad optics. My suggestion to you is look outside your bubble and start understanding perception and optics. It is extremely important in politics.
I don't even disagree with you on the optics thing, obviously you gotta have some way to connect the ideas to people who aren't there yet, or haven't considered certain things, because otherwise they're gonna think all this s*** is extreme.
I don't claim to be pretty much any of the stuff you're targeting with this thread but cmon u taking it super serious with the "Don't speak down to me again" on the internet
I don't even disagree with you on the optics thing, obviously you gotta have some way to connect the ideas to people who aren't there yet, or haven't considered certain things, because otherwise they're gonna think all this s*** is extreme.
I don't claim to be pretty much any of the stuff you're targeting with this thread but cmon u taking it super serious with the "Don't speak down to me again" on the internet
So you don't disagree with me. Cool.
Stop pretending the internet is an imaginary fairly land with fairies. I am a real person and so are you. I am somebody who will meet somebody and throw hands for internet stuff.
<---me trying to understand this notion that it's YOU who's supposed to be the spokesperson for how communism should work in discourse and action
It's nothing but him trolling lol
It's just u seem to be defining what you think things are so concretely ...
Like "Your mission as a communist is supposed to be .......! Not .......!"
It's just kinda weird how heavily you want to criticize it and at the same time define the goals of it as if you want the goals of the people you criticize to happen
So you don't disagree with me. Cool.
Stop pretending the internet is an imaginary fairly land with fairies. I am a real person and so are you. I am somebody who will meet somebody and throw hands for internet stuff.
I think your optics=bad.
Don't speak down to me again.
It's nothing but him trolling lol
What I suggest to you is to stop entering threads with inflammatory remarks towards people and complaining when they go at you. You started this in here on the first page. You should leave if you think I am trolling. Very simple stuff.
It's just u seem to be defining what you think things are so concretely ...
Like "Your mission as a communist is supposed to be .......! Not .......!"
It's just kinda weird how heavily you want to criticize it and at the same time define the goals of it as if you want the goals of the people you criticize to happen
Your mission in any political movement is to gain support. The f*** is this? How do you disagree with this?
I am an aggressive person when it comes to politics. I do not like frauds or weak people.
I mean, even Marx talked about this on some level. The people at the bottom of society were excluded from the discussion and deemed worthless.
Communism and any other ideologies do absolutely attract the privileged saviours who encourage the less privileged to fight for the cause. The less privileged lack the education of the more privileged to understand.
This is actually much of what I am talking about. The top is usually a well educated elite speaking to the less privileged to fight for his cause. The less privileged look to the elite for answers because they were denied the same privileges and education.
When it goes wrong, the privileged can just go on and live their life whilst the people who fought for the rot
this facts tbh though I'll give u that as well
All facts. A man or woman with something to lose is weaker than a man or woman with nothing to lose. There is no place with weak men or women in politics. The weak will fold and sell out.
Your mission in any political movement is to gain support. The f*** is this? How do you disagree with this?
I am an aggressive person when it comes to politics. I do not like frauds or weak people.
it's going to be okay fam i just feel like u are also taking s*** too seriously when it comes to this KTT s***. You made your points, plenty of good points
@OP are u just frustrated because the people you're talking about delegitimize the value of the ideas you believe in? cause i agree on a certain level. At the same time sometimes people with hardheaded dedication are necessary, even if they're not connecting the dots for everyone in the best way, theres all types of ways that can help a cause.
That’s basically politics sxn on here lmao
Most my socialism thread bredren non-h'white
thanks for putting words in my mouth lol
racism obviously isn't dead, but you'd be hard pressed to find a way that our current society holds people down due to their race in by legal means, never mind blaming in on capitalism in 2021.
Presently, I do think that black people have to take some blame for the position that they are in currently. Black people as a whole were on an upward trajectory as far as socioeconomic status even under Jim Crow, before many values that got them there went out the window (i.e., nuclear family structure being a big one)
It is important to acknowledge how racism has gotten black people as a whole to their current position, but also important to acknowledge what has come from oppression and what has come from culture/choices. I mentioned this in a reply to synopsis, but Asian-Americans are a prime example of how culture/choices can lift a group out of oppression and into success in only a few generations.
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@op What about weather underground? They were a mainly white organization which worked with black revolutionary organizations in the 70s.
They actually did guerrilla actions
@op What about weather underground? They were a mainly white organization which worked with black revolutionary organizations in the 70s.
They actually did guerrilla actions
White people can be great people. But you can never trust a white person to not sell out. There are many who will not, but you cannot tell who will sell out and who won't.
Because of this you have to be wary of all.
What I suggest to you is to stop entering threads with inflammatory remarks towards people and complaining when they go at you. You started this in here on the first page. You should leave if you think I am trolling. Very simple stuff.
report him for harassment
Yo what did your grandfather do in Cuba
he was a kid when he came here but he had 5 or 6 much older siblings, I was only ever able to meet one of them. Not sure what they did in all honesty. All I really know is that he worked as a farmhand in south florida when my dad was younger.
and on a side note I do wanna say I appreciate the conversation -- I read through your posts in this thread and you talk about a lot that I would never have thought of or even have been exposed to otherwise.