In my experience in Cambridge, UK, the leftist organisations are all very middle class and white. It is a very big Uni city, though.

Middle class white people have a hard time tackling capitalism because they have too much to lose. If you want to tackle the state, you have to be prepared to lose everything or have nothing to lose. There is no other choice.

You're a white middle class man aren't you? Do you want to share what you are?

you're right, he isn't, but some of the underlying principles still apply. Policy making under the democratic party is growing ever more influenced by people like Dr. Ibram Kendi at BU and critical race theorists.

I'm actually curious, could you maybe expain to me the direction that a leftist would take with this that's different than the current administration? It feels to me that this is kind of the apple not falling far from the tree, but I could easily be wrong as someone who mostly lands on the other side of the spectrum

Take with what?

how is a leftist unlike Biden on the idea of race I guess

yea I agree that an organisation thats mainly made up of middle class leftist aren't ever gonna really do anything, but they're still important in propagandising and raising class conscious but they do have a tendency to fail at even doing that and become snobbish book clubs or "culture discussion groups" like the Red Scare podcast

Well first of all, Biden is a racist, so there's that. Second, to be a leftist (a dumb term, just say socialist) is to be anti-racist which means recognizing the systemic racist structures present and perpetrated by both parties in america, to recognize that racism as we know it today grew out of capitalism, and then working to dismantle those structures. It also means you must recognize the inherent equality of all humans. and as karl marx said "labor in white skin can never free itself as long as labor in the black skin is branded"

You posted this on the other page:

''There is an automatic assumption that non-white individuals are in need of white people to help them because we aren't smart enough or competent enough to have personal responsibility''

This is so utterly true and a good example of what I am saying. The intelligentsia want to speak for the less privileged but do not want to speak to them. The intelligentsia know what is best than the poorly educated minorities. This attitude is so common, and sadly, there are many minorities who fall for it. I have seen minorities online asking for arguments and solutions for their own issues. It sucks to see.

You can’t be a sane person and be more left than social democrat. This is like a cutoff. If you are under 25 sure maybe

the f*** did i just read

@Wonderful Crazy look at these white men commies

I am not your enemy here. I think you misread my post. We agree. Black communists are better than white communists because they have less to lose and more to gain.

White middle class leftists with militant attitudes are a problem. That is my issue. My issue is not the left. My issue is not communism.

famously, black marxists were actually white

Social democrats are the only intelligent people in the entire political stratosphere

All the marxist movements in Chicago and Boyle Heights were white men

Any so called communist or socialist worth their salt would be able to recognize that actual work and progress toward a greater chance of equality is preferable.

(Also I'm curious as to who the 'we' you're referring to in the sentence "We all want to tackle inequality" is, because, if you mean people generally: that is not true. Most people regardless of ideology, don't give that much of a f***. People have to make a conscious decision to be concerned and speak out about these things to really be consistent or try and educate others on the subject)

Also like someone else said in this thread the whole 'army man fantasy' isn't necessarily your strongest argument when we literally had a full on right wing domestic terrorist attack on the capitol filled with people mostly men wanting to roleplay their 'army man fantasy.' This seems like a better target for that term than whatever you're projecting onto online left-wing people

TBH it's just confusing as to who or what you're actually targeting with this post. Maybe it'd make more sense if you specified certain things because those people you're referencing do exist, but it definitely doesn't apply across the board and it seems to me you have greater issues with these ideologies rather than just a certain sliver of people in the modern left wing dialogue nowadays

There are other fun terms like 'champagne socialist' which I think is funny and apt with a lot of people who play socialism without recognizing it would require lifestyle changes to practice what u preach about it

or 'virtue signalling' more recently,

But regarding the title saying 'the left is filled with ____'

kinda reads like you say they're a majority within the left that are like this , even if that wasnt your intention

In regard to my first sentence:

[Edit: let's take the covid relief bill for example. There's been debate between more center or regular democrats and those further to the left about whether they should criticize the bill because it is actually doing a lot of good within it, and it's actually accomplishing things, even if its not the best. I think you gotta take something from either of those perspectives on this: Yes, most of the things in that bill that passed are DIRELY needed as soon as possible, and great. its good they're going out. But we STILL need at least a $15 minimum wage as thats the researched amount that a single person needs to live off of in this country. The ideas against a wage increase can all be dispelled pretty easily by now, i.e. it didn't increase with inflation for HOW MANY YEARS?, wealth inequality hurts women and non-whites more often and a min. wage increase would significantly benefit those demographics, people having more disposable income/purchasing power helps the economy have more money moving around stimulating it... All too often centrist democrats will hardly ever advocate for any f***ing progression at all but then want to make the biggest fuss at those further left because they're protesting the inaction, thinking they're getting s*** done but in reality the people on any side don't want cowardly and politicians who aren't in touch with the real issues, but people who speak out in defense and in service to them and their needs)

Adam curtis is a king

You do realize Che came from a privileged background

As did many other famous socialists

Yes. very special man. As was Engels.

Do we continue cherry picking?

I don't really understand how in 2021 capitalism fuels racism. Obviously racism has historically been integral to capitalism in world history. But what's stopping a black man from reaping the benefits of capitalism nowadays?

"Inherent equality" to me means ensuring equality of opportunity, not ensuring equality of outcomes in the way socialism does.

I would argue that I'm quite anti-racist and that consists of treating everyone regardless of race with the same respect and protecting their freedoms as outlined in the bill of rights

Real

Maoists, marxists leninists are just economic losers. Lenin was a failed economist with an personal grudge and mao completely f***ed up

Socialism is a fad among privileged white guys right now. It’s fashionable.

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Yet your man Synopsis will not give a vote to Biden even though it absolutely 100% does lead to tackling inequality on some level. Biden is better for inequality than Trump by every objective measure. And no, I am not supporting Biden. I don't like the guy or his politics, but take him relative to Trump. Your man claims to fight for inequality whilst refusing to vote for Biden.

My target is on middle class white people roleplaying fantasies. I don't want to see a privileged white guy talking about tackling the system in a militant fashion. If you ain't prepared to risk your life rioting and tearing the system apart, don't tell other people to. Don't put that responsibility on those less fortunate.

I am not going to finish every one of my posts with 'not all leftists'. How about you man up and stop getting offended over this? I couldn't give a f*** about you or your leftist friends getting offended. Many leftists in here have no taken offense to this. Start looking at yourself and the people you surround yourself with if me saying middle class white leftists are bad for the cause is offending you.

Capitalism is the least racist system there is lmao

Capitalism thrives on a surplus of consumers & demand that outweighs supply. The more participants in a capitalistic economy the better.

No system that has a goal of generating as much wealth as humanly possible is even remotely racist. Anyone telling you differently is an uneducated grifter acting in bad faith.