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  • Sep 6, 2023
    WhiteRose

    Artists are the reason why life is worth living. They write stories, they create beautiful music, they design our buildings and roads we walk on, the clothes we wear, the shows and movies we watch, the entertainment that keeps us laughing and engaged while we spend time with loved ones on our days off.

    Artists need more respect. People get greedy and accustomed because it’s seen as “normal” but imagine what this world would be without any humans attempting to think creatively. Everything would look and be the same and life would be insanely mundane.

    Yeah but I'm talking about labels, to them every artist is just an investment, sucks but it is what it is

  • yeah man... i think it's been pretty obvious for a while now.

    streaming has taken power AWAY from the artist even if we thought it was the other way around

  • Raiden

    Still better than the streaming service which we have to buy 5+ because the movies are all scattered around

    don't give the labels any bright ideas bud...

  • Sep 6, 2023
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    Notmyfirst

    its sad we can never go back

    i mean.... technically... we COULD....

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    Not sure what a better solution would be for both artists and consumers? Maybe higher premium base price to pay artists more? Genuinely not sure what would work better here. I buy albums and songs all the time but consumers do not care to spend money on music. It’s never been easier to blow up without signing to a label
    Probably a lot of people that pay for Spotify premium that wouldn’t pay a dime for albums if it was still like 2006

  • Sep 6, 2023
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    ThisIsNeverThat

    i mean.... technically... we COULD....

    the problem is that all of us are so phone dependent. computers and cars dont accept CDs anymore also

  • Sep 6, 2023
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    can someone please think of the millionaire music artists for a second herr

  • Sep 6, 2023
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    Shooa

    What would happen if artists like Drake, Kendrick, Ye, Travis, Beyoncé, Taylor swift, Nicki, etc all came together and pulled their s*** from streaming at once?

    i think that one of those artists is going to do a physical only drop at some point

  • Sep 6, 2023
    syn

    can someone please think of the millionaire music artists for a second herr

    Bro if you can make a million bucks doing anything, go for it it’s not even about them being artists (although personally I would love to support all the artists that impact my life over say, my car mechanic)

    Imagine a car mechanic making millions for the body shop he created and the work he does, but the owners of the body shop pay him $0.10 for every $10 they make of profit

    It goes for any industry, people deserve to get their fair share of money for their work

  • GIO GIO

    Not sure what a better solution would be for both artists and consumers? Maybe higher premium base price to pay artists more? Genuinely not sure what would work better here. I buy albums and songs all the time but consumers do not care to spend money on music. It’s never been easier to blow up without signing to a label
    Probably a lot of people that pay for Spotify premium that wouldn’t pay a dime for albums if it was still like 2006

    #GoBackToPhysicalAlbums #DeleteStreamingServices
    #mp3downloads

  • Sep 6, 2023
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    Jim Halpert

    the problem is that all of us are so phone dependent. computers and cars dont accept CDs anymore also

    there's really no solution i can think of to reverse how spoiled we've become in that regard. getting people to buy individual albums would make people cry like b****es.

    it's looking bleak out here tbh. streaming creates an oversaturation while everything is also mid because there's not much incentive to be dope anymore

  • the streaming service itself shouldn't be a human entity but rather an AI. that way it doesn't need actual money and we can spit all profits between actual artists

    #DownWithHumanLabels

  • Sep 6, 2023
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    WhiteRose

    Back in the day we would pay $8.99 for an artist we liked. Not all that money went to the artist of course. But it was just one artist, that we wanted to support.

    Now for that same price you can buy almost every song from almost every artist ever: even the ones you don’t support.

    Ideally this could’ve been great, IF the majority of the money went to the artists. I wouldn’t mind. But the streaming services are giving literal crumbs to the artists from the insane profits they’re making. Slavery.

    So what is the solution?

    A user-centric payment system, where the subscription fee you pay is distributed only among the artists you actually listen to, rather than being pooled and distributed based on overall streams

    Laws to protect the interests of artists and ensure they get a fair share of streaming profits

  • Sep 6, 2023
    ThisIsNeverThat

    there's really no solution i can think of to reverse how spoiled we've become in that regard. getting people to buy individual albums would make people cry like b****es.

    it's looking bleak out here tbh. streaming creates an oversaturation while everything is also mid because there's not much incentive to be dope anymore

    I think after some more thought I’m realizing the only real solution is to do a strike, force these companies to pay their fair share.

    It just sucks when big artists like Drake resign major deals with them, when they have the power to create a huge ripple in the industry if they were to go independent.

  • Sep 6, 2023
    Yuzzy

    A user-centric payment system, where the subscription fee you pay is distributed only among the artists you actually listen to, rather than being pooled and distributed based on overall streams

    Laws to protect the interests of artists and ensure they get a fair share of streaming profits

    Ngl this would be hard. It would force companies to pay their artists more and pocket less

  • Sep 6, 2023
    Jim Halpert

    i think that one of those artists is going to do a physical only drop at some point

    kanye tried but the music was too ass for it to matter

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    really sucks how indie artists are f***ed over in seemingly every way possible nowadays

    i appreciate jeff rosenstock going public with the merch cuts that he has to deal with

  • Sep 6, 2023
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    demo

    really sucks how indie artists are f***ed over in seemingly every way possible nowadays

    i appreciate jeff rosenstock going public with the merch cuts that he has to deal with

    Link?

  • Sep 6, 2023
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    americana

    The solution is something that will never be accepted by the powers that be

    Communism?

  • Sep 6, 2023
    Danny

    Link?

    stereogum.com/2235047/jeff-rosenstock-breaks-down-how-much-venue-merch-cuts-suck/news

    having to give 20% of your merch sales to live nation and AEG is straight up evil

  • Sep 6, 2023
    Not Like Josuke

    Communism?

    whatever you wanna call it

    But yes, artists having their own agency and their own control of an industry founded on their work is something that label heads don’t want

  • Sep 7, 2023
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    Notmyfirst

    the ease is access is obviously a plus and the amount of stuff I have discovered thanks to the low barrier to entry is invaluable

    but there is something we lost in process. That feeling of being obsessed with one album and examining the physical so deeply, that loss of physicality is so sad to me.

    Totally agree on that much. Music is too disposable and overly commodified, one might even say overly accessible for true appreciation

  • Sep 7, 2023
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    glassrainbow

    Totally agree on that much. Music is too disposable and overly commodified, one might even say overly accessible for true appreciation

    Maybe controversial but I think the existence of songs ultimately aids in music’s extra vulnerability to this downside, especially compared to other mediums of art entertainment. When most people are conditioned to base the value of production in your industry on 2-4 minutes hits of dopamine with no narrative basis that was fed to them by radio and/or social media algorithms nowadays, of course it will be extra vulnerable to being made too accessible for true appreciation by certain changes in consumption standards ie streaming. That’s not the cycle of appreciating art, that’s the cycle of buying crack

    And I also think this is the core reason the music industry is doomed to have problems forever. Cause songs are great and everyone loves them, so why would we get rid of songs or why would the industry change songs being the center of music consumption?

  • Sep 7, 2023
    Jim Halpert

    i think that one of those artists is going to do a physical only drop at some point

    Yeah it would have to be someone with crazy hype and demand going into it. Honestly only Taylor could pull it off, sorry to the other living megastars in the world I don’t think they could do it and it matter

  • Sep 7, 2023
    BRAVE

    Maybe controversial but I think the existence of songs ultimately aids in music’s extra vulnerability to this downside, especially compared to other mediums of art entertainment. When most people are conditioned to base the value of production in your industry on 2-4 minutes hits of dopamine with no narrative basis that was fed to them by radio and/or social media algorithms nowadays, of course it will be extra vulnerable to being made too accessible for true appreciation by certain changes in consumption standards ie streaming. That’s not the cycle of appreciating art, that’s the cycle of buying crack

    And I also think this is the core reason the music industry is doomed to have problems forever. Cause songs are great and everyone loves them, so why would we get rid of songs or why would the industry change songs being the center of music consumption?

    Hmm I like this too. Hopefully my music saves the game