Aight then idk much about south africans but u have literally zero in common with people from madagascar, it's a whole different history there

I never said im not black, I live in Canada nigga im forced to be. If I could only identify as somali though I would bc thats my history and what defines me.

What I am not is african bc that s*** s*** straight up does not exist as an identity at all, we have nothing to do with niggas from Congo for example.

What does the comparison of South Africa (assuming you mean the country) have to do with that?

Madagascar has a different history and yet they're 80% sub saharan African on average, not to mention some of the Black identified people brought to Virginia were Malagasy.

Well idk anything about south africa or south africans so I can't tell u if u have enything in common with them, that's all i'm saying I'm ignorant on them.

Didn't know there were malagasy slaves in America though, how tf did they end up there? Was it the french?

That's not how it works. There's no White culture but there are multiple things that have created Black Culture including disenfranchisement. You cannot ignore that.

We do have different cultures and ethnicities as Black Folks. But my entire point is that we are all African (like literally if you are a Black male anywhere you are genetically and culturally African) and will be seen as tickets for exploitation and discrimination because of our fractured and oppressed standings anywhere we go.

How is being a nationalist ED? Would you say that about Vietnam or other former colonized countries that have used nationalism to promote communal ties? Or Pan-Africanism which has led to the continent working together after hundreds of years of disenfranchisement?

Nations are an antiquated concept so yes I would say that about any and all of them

Agree with some of this but I dont agree that there isnt a white culture. All those european countries have their own customs, languages, and stuff like that. If you mean that theres no white monoculture I agree.

There isnt a black monoculture either though. A nigga from Columbia and a nigga from the US have very little in common culturally besides the fact that we are both descended from the same region of africa

to be honest i do not have the extensive background on the entirety of asian history you would need to undeniably substantiate this, but i think it's more so understandable through the shared histories of colonization and orientalization as a side effect of hegemonic discourse that prioritizes western world powers and superiority. it is the exact same hegemonic concept that justifies the domination of people from all over the entire continent of asia for material gain. the western public will subject you to the same hierarchical narrative regardless of whether you are middle eastern or east asian.

if we are to define these things as unique there would be an operant characteristic that makes it useful in contrast to others. the umbrella conditions that make "asian" a useful term is to me the shared understanding of the more contemporary rampant colonialist exploitation by the west of these intensely interlinked ancient societies that in and of themselves carry many of the same cultural characteristics.

the contradiction of what is and isn't asian according to a narrow view of asian is easily expressed in terms of ethnicity, as a result of the diversity of the asian continent in ways that other broad racial categories might have a harder time exemplifying.
a lot of nepalese people are phenotypically closer to the Chinese majority, and yet are culturally scarcely indistinguishable from the Indian majority in comparison. the color of your skin is an undeniable element in the intersectional nature of race, but does not in and of itself constitute race. it is to use the blind white hegemonic eye to constitute "asian" as a factor of phenotype over the more useful a***ysis of in relation to the subjectivity of western hegemonic power structures.

Sorry that this isn't quite as concise as it should be, I haven't written about this topic in a long time, and as a result I am lacking in a lot of the material references i would like to support this.

England.

See this is complete cap

We never intermingled with anybody but cushites and arabs so we have no link genetically speaking to angolans for example

There is also no such thing as "culturally african", it's like a mish mash of thousands of different cultures dawg. Imagine ever saying some s*** like "asian culture", it's as rétarded as that.

White monoculture is white supremacy

How does that work? Didn't know the brits ever controlled that place

ehhh idk. Because remember there was a time when Irish and Italians werent even considered white

Even if they are successful, aren't racist and defends the nation from imperialism like Vietnam?

They were considered white niggas (er) but no doubt they were still treated better than us and weren't discriminated as heavily as Africans were.

@ismail_mire

slavevoyages.org/voyages/mMCo4wmj
jstor.org/stable/3879475

Yes, and then they were absorbed into "whiteness", which is something that didn't "really" exist until Bacon's Rebellion.

The Invention of the White Race Vol 1 & 2 put me on to this.

Your country is in africa you're african whether you like it or not. I agree with some of your other points though and the same applies for white ppl (you would understand if you live in europe) asians etc. Ethnic background is the only thing that matters in the rest of the world outside America.

The only thing that separates an oppressive nation from an oppressed one is time and power. The construct of a nation is only necessary bc of a nonexistent unifying planetary structure and philosophy, which doesn’t exist in part because of nationalism, so yes.

Yeah I'm african as in the same way a pakistani is asian, basically just geographically speaking. Never had a problem with that.

What I don't like is that niggas put an identity on top of that as if it means something more when it absolutely doesn't. The same thing with black for example, to me honestly it's just a physical feature I have, I don't put any more significance to that bc in the community I greww up in that concept straight up does not exist.

Also I disagree with ethnic makeup being the only that matters in the rest of the world

Religious identity is more important than ethnicity in pretty much every muslim country, it's not like that in Europe anymore though I get it

Usually religion is a part of the ethnic identity but even then it can take precedence over religion. Just look at Ethiopia for example where the conflicts are mostly between different ethnic groups who share religion. Or Russia v Ukraine.

Yeah we're pretty much all ethnoreligious groups outside of america and east asia

But like to us a brazilian muslim would be more welcome in Somalia than an ethnically somali dude who isn't muslim. That's what I mean, we're literally all taught that we're muslim first, ethnicity second

I respect your opinion.

Do you believe in a transitional nationalism where the people finally get dignity after years of oppression? Where they control their businesses/livelihood in their communities? That’s why I’m a black nationalist a la Malcolm X.