I will say, that while I am hoping for Maye to be able to sit this season and in a perfect world I think that gives him the best chance of success, I also donāt think itās good if you force him to sit if heās clearly playing better than Jacoby. It sends the wrong message
I am hoping Jacoby can play even if Maye tomorrow, as he had seemed to be doing (or even better) for the first half of camp
I agree it's a dumb comp, the situations are nothing alike.
they absolutely shoulda played mahomes with the benefit of hindsight though. how much better do you realistically think he was in his second season than he would've been in his first? they probably could've made a deeper run with a rookie mahomes compared to alex smith. he's just built different.
Oh yeah, I completely agree. But again, even thatās a pointless comp, because as I said, the Chiefs were a very talented team in 2017
The problem is, that we are bottom 5 in the league right now. If Mahomes was entering this same situation, I would have argued for him to be sat if possible too
Whether youāre trying to argue in favor of or against Maye starting, Mahomes/Chiefs in 2017 is a dumb comp
Chiefs were a playoff team with a lot of talent in 2017, and they had a starting QB already in place (Alex Smith) that ended up going to the Pro Bowl that season, and Mahomes was deemed by some draft a***ysts as a bit of a āprojectā. They had absolutely no need to force the issue that season
The point I was trying to make is it doesnāt matter who you are anyone can sit.
There is no real downside to letting your qb ease into the nfl then to throw him blindly into the flames to get āgame repsā.
The point I was trying to make is it doesnāt matter who you are anyone can sit.
There is no real downside to letting your qb ease into the nfl then to throw him blindly into the flames to get āgame repsā.
Yeah Iād say I agree with this, with the one caveat that if you are a very talented team capable of making the playoffs and you DONāT have a top 20 QB and you are able to draft a QB high with potential to be a top 20 QB, thatās the one scenario where I think the reward outweighs the risk, and you should 100% do it.
Canāt think of a time that was the case off the top of my head though
Also, obviously situations where injuries force your hand and you have no other option but to go with the rookie (like Purdy and the 49ers)
Yeah Iād say I agree with this, with the one caveat that if you are a very talented team capable of making the playoffs and you DONāT have a top 20 QB and you are able to draft a QB high with potential to be a top 20 QB, thatās the one scenario where I think the reward outweighs the risk, and you should 100% do it.
Canāt think of a time that was the case off the top of my head though
Also, obviously situations where injuries force your hand and you have no other option but to go with the rookie (like Purdy and the 49ers)
Yeah I agree. If we were a bubble team or had a real chance in our division send maye tf out there and aim high.
I mean on the offensive side of the ball itās a complete disaster.what good can come from maye playing is all Iām saying .
Letās not forget Mac was an offensive runner up, a pro bowl (reserve), made the playoffs and this organization still made him out to be a complete disaster.
Yeah Iād say I agree with this, with the one caveat that if you are a very talented team capable of making the playoffs and you DONāT have a top 20 QB and you are able to draft a QB high with potential to be a top 20 QB, thatās the one scenario where I think the reward outweighs the risk, and you should 100% do it.
Canāt think of a time that was the case off the top of my head though
Also, obviously situations where injuries force your hand and you have no other option but to go with the rookie (like Purdy and the 49ers)
what do yall think of the texans comp to our situation? expected to be terrible last year, threw stroud out there, he balled out. we def donāt have a nico collins on our team, but whoās to say polk couldnāt pan out like tank dell did? I still think our defense has a chance to be good also. who knows maybe we could have an effective running game?
I donāt think we could be as good as houston last year but I donāt think us exceeding expectations is off the table. we should aim high because thatās the habit we want to build under mayo.
what do yall think of the texans comp to our situation? expected to be terrible last year, threw stroud out there, he balled out. we def donāt have a nico collins on our team, but whoās to say polk couldnāt pan out like tank dell did? I still think our defense has a chance to be good also. who knows maybe we could have an effective running game?
I donāt think we could be as good as houston last year but I donāt think us exceeding expectations is off the table. we should aim high because thatās the habit we want to build under mayo.
I think by far the biggest disqualifier for why the Texans were in a MUCH more understandable place to let their rookie QB start is because they without question had a top 15 offensive line last year (maybe even top 10).
And thatās besides the fact that none of our WRs are remotely close to as good as Nico Collins, and do not have the potential to get there. Tank Dell level production might even be an ambitious ask of Polk given his physical limitations (not enough speed or size to make him pro bowl level, he probably tops out at Jakobi Meyers level production).
Like Iāll keep repeating it because I donāt want yall to be disappointed: we will likely be competing for the #1 draft pick again this year as a result of how f***ing bad our offensive line is. And that our WR group is no where near good enough to make up for it.
The only two reasons I think our offense may not be as āuglyā as last year to watch are 1) I think AVP was a good hire, and heāll keep things steady 2) our QB room is way better (which was not a difficult thing to accomplish)
START DRAKE MAYE WEEK 1
HE WILL BEAT THE BENGALS
HE IS BUILT DIFFERENT. HE WILL CARRY THIS S***TY TEAM TO 7 WINS
offensive line looking absolutely horrendous
Our starters (minus Andrews) struggled against the Commanders backup pass rush (and they donāt even have a great starting pass rush)
Weāre sending out whoever our starting QB is to die
Oh, and Sow got injured (the only thing about this team that may be worse than our starting O Line is the overall depth of our O Line)
Our starters (minus Andrews) struggled against the Commanders backup pass rush (and they donāt even have a great starting pass rush)
Weāre sending out whoever our starting QB is to die
Oh, and Sow got injured (the only thing about this team that may be worse than our starting O Line is the overall depth of our O Line)
yeah it was insanely bad lol wonāt deny it. sucks cuz maye himself is totally ready to play
Iām sure weāll be seeing a decent amount of Wolf hate over the next few months (especially if Worthy, or Pearsal, or Legette, or Adonai, or Coleman end up turning into a pro bowl caliber WR, and Polk just ends up being āsolidā)
But just to get a jump on it:
1) Easy and obvious huge f*** up that everyone saw as a f*** up at the time, and is still a f*** up ā not using the large amount of cap space we had to offer Tyron Smith an overpay contract to get him to play for us. We could DESPERATELY use him right now
2) Drafting Caden Wallace 5 spots after the Chiefs chose Suamataia. Caden Wallace is so bad apparently that he canāt even crack the starting line up of this all time sad group of tackles. And Suamataia is about to be the starting left tackle of the defending Super Bowl champions
si.com/nfl/chiefs/gm-report/is-kingsley-suamataia-the-chiefs-biggest-x-factor-in-2024
There were tons of Pats fans mocking him to us in the early 2nd round, and yet we could have got him by moving up 5 or 6 picks from the 3rd round. Instead we were content to go with a guy that no one had a āstarterā grade on.
so in summary: drake maye had a good preseason. but we will probably have to sit him to start the year because the rest of our offense (including and specifically o-line) is dogshit
so in summary: drake maye had a good preseason. but we will probably have to sit him to start the year because the rest of our offense (including and specifically o-line) is dogshit
I mean yes, but I donāt take that statement specifically as just being that: I think Mayo is also saying what I hear from beat reporters ā which is that Brissett outplayed Maye at various points throughout the offseason. Maye just happened to outplay him in the preseason
And to be fair, how many series did Jacoby get a chance to play in preseason games? I think it was only like 3. Which is insanely minuscule compared to the overall number of plays they ran in offseason and training camp practices
so in summary: drake maye had a good preseason. but we will probably have to sit him to start the year because the rest of our offense (including and specifically o-line) is dogshit
I agree with the idea of sitting him because the offensive line is a liability, but I think heās going to play at some point this season. Brissett wonāt stay healthy all season.
I agree with the idea of sitting him because the offensive line is a liability, but I think heās going to play at some point this season. Brissett wonāt stay healthy all season.
yea, i'm in favor of starting jacoby regardless of who deserves it. i'm on board with the strategy of sitting maye for at least part of this year (not just for safety but for development). i just have a bad feeling our o-line will result in jacoby getting hurt (as he did in the latest game) so maye will have to go in and deal with the pass rush himself.
Brisett over Drake
Brisett over Drake
the right decision