I will address the first half because it is worth addressing; but Childish Gambino, really? The slur dropping anti black fem colourist?
Childish Gambino is much more introspective than Tyler the Creator man I will stand on it.
HIs work with atlanta and music prove my point
It's like for every good point OP brings up he almost immediately follows it up some extremely stupid ass s*** that just makes it hard to back him up
tyler was dropping the f slur for funsies every five seconds of course he came out as gay around the time of cancellatioon because if he didn't he would be f***ed
Childish Gambino is much more introspective than Tyler the Creator man I will stand on it.
HIs work with atlanta and music prove my point
So we can undo a history of degradation as long as we like the music and product? I'd say that applies to Tyler in this instance
I think nostalgia runs their love for the album
see you again is dope lol but yeah I am not returning to it day in day out no
accepting his sexuality . My brother in christ if you spend most of your career using the f word which dealt with countless black people and otherwise thinking it was cool to be homophobic you dont get to just suck a white d*** drop a good album and return
He made bullying cool and acceptable. Recongnize yes his listeners actions are their own but I wont clap for someone who joked about rape, called gay people f slur and so much more for much of his career and come up. That again is why I have said him criticizing Ian is hypocritical
because Tyler brazen attitude and the youth that sought to emulate has done infinitely more the blaack community than Ian an artist where if you said "we will execute and torture your entire family if you cant sing the hook of an ian song "I would have to accept it.
no his growth isnt authentic it was him realizing the corny edge lord s*** was over and I pray one day many of you realize the same messaging
same way gambino after because the internet dropped he shifted maturally into awaken my love and got the accolades he deserved. As well as Atlanta. donald glover childish gambino makes much better music to me while not over doing the edginess for white eyes or to court eminems audience
You don’t think him being a young black man in the rap industry played a role in his use of that slur? Same thing with him not feeling accepted by a large portion of the black community/culture. I think both played a role in why he acted how he acted.
Also I never said he was above criticism for his past actions. I clown his coon comments too.
I really don’t see how you can say his growth is inorganic when he grew up and reconciled with the two things that made him act that way
So we can undo a history of degradation as long as we like the music and product? I'd say that applies to Tyler in this instance
"id say that applies to tyler in this case"
saying the f word for fun and encouraging bullying doesnt compare to the dumb s*** donald glover has done man
Also takes 5 year breaks between albums
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also has deliberately been mumbling and (in his words) not being anything close to CD-quality lyrical in most of those albums.
Only real mark I got against Tyler is how little he produces for others. If the Neptunes are his production icons, and Pharrell is someone who inspires him the most musically...nigga should've BEEN producing for a bunch of other artists across rap, pop, and R&B.
Outside of his Odd Future circle, I can only think of maybe...four or five artists he's worked with? And only two of those four or five are R&B/pop artists. Maybe it's artists passing on his beats which he isn't in control of so I can understand that. But for someone who has been known to frequently wax poetic about production and wanting bridges and more live instrumentation for hip-hop and R&B to return...he sure does very little production work for other artists where he can bring that kinda stuff back
I've heard him talk about sending a lot of people beats (earlier in his career iitc) so I think it's rappers not f***ing with it
and thinking it through, it's not like you're gonna get a radio single from him because he doesn't even make that for himself - so you're gonna pay his price for a random album cut?
his R&B stuff is typically really good though
It's like for every good point OP brings up he almost immediately follows it up some extremely stupid ass s*** that just makes it hard to back him up
You genuinely believe that Tyler is better at composition and curating than Travis? What the f*** is Travis’ selling point if not that?
You are fanned out
also has deliberately been mumbling and (in his words) not being anything close to CD-quality lyrical in most of those albums.
Was The Suns tirade his last good album
accepting his sexuality . My brother in christ if you spend most of your career using the f word which dealt with countless black people and otherwise thinking it was cool to be homophobic you dont get to just suck a white d*** drop a good album and return
He made bullying cool and acceptable. Recongnize yes his listeners actions are their own but I wont clap for someone who joked about rape, called gay people f slur and so much more for much of his career and come up. That again is why I have said him criticizing Ian is hypocritical
because Tyler brazen attitude and the youth that sought to emulate has done infinitely more the blaack community than Ian an artist where if you said "we will execute and torture your entire family if you cant sing the hook of an ian song "I would have to accept it.
no his growth isnt authentic it was him realizing the corny edge lord s*** was over and I pray one day many of you realize the same messaging
same way gambino after because the internet dropped he shifted maturally into awaken my love and got the accolades he deserved. As well as Atlanta. donald glover childish gambino makes much better music to me while not over doing the edginess for white eyes or to court eminems audience
donald glover childish gambino makes much better music to me while not over doing the edginess for white eyes or to court eminems audience
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh have you seen lithonia music video?
You don’t think him being a young black man in the rap industry played a role in his use of that slur? Same thing with him not feeling accepted by a large portion of the black community/culture. I think both played a role in why he acted how he acted.
Also I never said he was above criticism for his past actions. I clown his coon comments too.
I really don’t see how you can say his growth is inorganic when he grew up and reconciled with the two things that made him act that way
Nigga I played halo 2 since 2004 yall make all these f***ing excuses for niggas while being highly critical of everything I do and my exact wording on this forum
I have been bullied by black people before this forum lol and on this forum. It doesnt change the way I view black people
yall got all these excuses for a grown ass man
he is a coon its not coon comments he parodied gangster rap and many other things
I called it inorganic beause he on a stage crying abut an award that he would never touch if he didnt suck a white d***
There is no explanation for why people like something that you don’t, just move on. You’re over a***yzing opinions, it’d be like saying “i tried Indian food and I think it’s one of the most overrated foods, explain why it’s so good”, it’s just taste
donald glover childish gambino makes much better music to me while not over doing the edginess for white eyes or to court eminems audience
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh have you seen lithonia music video?
no actually I think his final album is really mid
I will address the first half because it is worth addressing; but Childish Gambino, really? The slur dropping anti black fem colourist?
Oh brother.
tyler fans you got your favorite groomer its cool
I like Leo Dicaprio yall like tyler its okay
You genuinely believe that Tyler is better at composition and curating than Travis? What the f*** is Travis’ selling point if not that?
You are fanned out
no actually I think his final album is really mid
it was definitely some edgy s***.
also black twitter didn't take kindly to his WB frog music video for Little Foot Big Foot
The House is Trash was garbage
As a fan of him since Cliva Demo, I can’t hate on anyone with this opinion.
I liked it for what it was but definitely could of been a lot better after the leaks and 5 year wait