TheReal212

2y

I think the Avatar OST is incredible. Even just watching that trailer from Avatar 2, the music was easily more memorable to me than any other movie OST I have heard in years.

Don Corleone is one of the greatest characters in cinema history, but the Godfather isn't as relevant today as it was in the 70s. I think a ton of people wouldn't be able to tell you who he is because many people just haven't seen the Godfather.

I think while visuals are a big part of Avatar 2's marketing, that is definitely not the only reason people are interested. They want to see a great story. And we have seen what Cameron does in his sequels. The first Alien and first Terminator were very intimate stories that were liked but didn't have nearly the universal attention and love that their sequels got because they became a lot more iconic and far reaching in their appeal. And now both Alien and Terminator are seen as very iconic movies because the sequels made people understand those movies better and appreciate them.

paradise valley

2y

"No one cares"
"No one remembers the characters names"
"No one writes fanfics about Avatar"

Not these tired twitter takes...

Fox really didn't do much with Avatar after 2010. The biggest thing was the theme park

But the real Avatar franchise starts now, in exactly 10 days with The Way of Water.

Then we have new movies in 2024, 2026 and 2028. Get used to it

After Hours

2y

looks like you watched the second movie already. How were the visuals?

Noah Sammak III

2y

Unfortunately signed an NDA so can’t speak on it

Theory Talk Trader

2y

this gonna sound dumb asf but weeknd isnt in the movie as well right?

shaleirose

2y

The Way of Water needs to make more than $2 billion just to break even. You’d better hope it reaches that

Theory Talk Trader

2y

this gonna sound dumb asf but weeknd isnt in the movie as well right?

shaleirose

2y

The Way of Water needs to make more than $2 billion just to break even. You’d better hope it reaches that

TheReal212

2y

Cameron already walked back this claim. He said it needs to make $800 mil

paradise valley

2y

The production budget is actually in the $350-400 million range.

shaleirose

2y

James Cameron himself said the movie has to be in the Top 5 highest grossing ever just to break even:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/22/media/avatar-sequel-reliable-sources/index.html

EDIT: Didn’t see that James lowered that number. Wonder why he started so high then

TheReal212

2y

I think he worded it awkwardly. I think when he was talking about top 5 highest grossing ever, he may have referred to domestically (which would be around 800 mil)

I think he also said it this way because this was before Avatar 2 got the China release so maybe he figured the movie would have to dominate domestically since there wouldn't be as much of a worldwide launch.

Jonboi

2y

Are we seriously gonna pretend like we actually remember characters names from movies? You could do this with a lot of films. Jake Sully is a sticky name IMO.

shaleirose

2y

If you can’t remember the character’s name fine, but classic movies and movies that leave a mark on society have other identifiers that people bring up for years, like iconic moments, quotable dialogue, great story elements, or musical cues. Avatar has none of those, on top of the character names being forgettable.

All people remember it for is the visual effects & box office

shaleirose

2y

Ahh that makes sense

I think the movie will definitely reach that mark, but I’d be shocked if gets anywhere near the first movie’s totals. The most I see this doing is 1.3-1.5 billion