thought they denounced him mainly because he jobbed them? anyway I’m not gonna evaluate something that’s clearly unfinished, defeats the purpose imo..maybe if I was a sap who payed 200 I’d see it differently

You are correct we not counting that though it’s a demo

Isn’t this extremely subjective? What if someone only genuinely enjoys like 7-8 songs from one of the longer albums by one of the artists in OP?

Can I purchase or stream Donda 2 sir?

Until Kanye came out as a Nazi, you could buy it for $200 a pop with the Stem player, and it was executively produced by Future

Personally not being into a song and critically a***yzing it and determining weather it’s a poorly executed song or not is two different things

nah drake think he british, jamaican, southern american and spanish

Nah you could buy the STEM PLAYER for $200 which just so happened to include a demo of Donda 2 which was later scraped

I agree actually

Ye literally announced it as an album lol

It's an album, Kanye has fallen off

What is this objective criteria for a poorly executed song that you’ve come to? You must have one based on this thread

CLB is a great example of what I’m talking about actually

It’s obviously not a classic or not even a great album only a stan would suggest that but objectively it’s far from bad

It’s 21 tracks long. I challenge you to name just 5 objectively BAD songs on that album. Not songs YOU personally aren’t into but songs the average person would agree and say “yeah that song is objectively terrible”. You can’t do it lol.

Y’all be exaggerating like hell lol

He announced Yandhi too and that also has a rough demo but no one is running around calling that an album now are they

donda was better but this is true, and i love making fun of drake

music is subjective

I pretty much break it down into individual elements. Production wise I’m listening for good melodies or samples solid percussion and rhythm that makes my head nod, satisfying low end, good execution also that intangible element that provides that feeling of soul or some sort of connection. Production doesn’t need to be complex it can be rather simple just as long as the appropriate emotional chord is struck. Although there is nothing wrong with complex orchestration like Kanye does sometimes. It’s whatever the emotion calls for.

Performance wise I’m listening for interesting flows and schemes, entertaining lyrics (don’t necessarily have to be deep or complex), presence, just an overall captivating performance. A great concept or theme is nice but not necessary.

If a song is lacking in many of those areas I’d say it’s bad/poorly executed

Indeed it is which is why the “Bad Drake albums” “Bad Jay-Z Albums” “Everything After TLOP is garbage” and “MMTBS is trash” narratives are lame

100% wrong about Mr. Morale and Drake

those are just opinions man

Because the rough demo was unofficially leaked as opposed to officially released, and Kanye officially scrapped Yandhi before any version of it was legally or intentionally released

Tell them that

It’s funny how we always have a tendency to advocate for negative people’s right to have an opinion but dismiss those with positive opinions as stans

The 2 albums before Donda are garbage

CLB is garbage

Eh you have a point but I still feel like if I can’t access the album via normal channels it’s not cannon

What would you say about classic early-to-mid 2010s mixtapes that are still only officially available on DatPiff?

More importantly, what would you have said given your current line of thinking of those releases at the time of their original release?