Sep 17, 2020
safethats f***ing wild
@op add 'KTT invented" to the title
KTT INVENTED
Sep 17, 2020·1 replysafeI mean not in a way thats provable though
like maybe a ton of artists pretend to be unsigned but we will never know that they're pretending
Agree 100% here.
The easiest way to tell is whether or not an artist is getting radio play in big feature spots.
Almost NEVER happens to unsigned acts.
Sep 17, 2020·1 replysafecomplex themselves say
"It’s difficult to pinpoint the first use of the phrase, but it seems to have emerged through message board culture at the start of the 2010s. A thread on the influential forum KanyeToThe from 2012 posits that everyone from Waka Flocka Flame to Lil Wayne to 50 Cent was an industry plant, albeit without any evidence."No thats a random P&P article I saw the same thing. The s*** has typos and is from this year. Of course somebody who probably browses KTT thinks that we made the term.
- safe 🪩Sep 17, 2020·1 replyClanWay
Agree 100% here.
The easiest way to tell is whether or not an artist is getting radio play in big feature spots.
Almost NEVER happens to unsigned acts.
yea
like the kid Laroi opened for Juice WRLD and Denzel Curry in Australia in 2018 but only signed to a talent agency in Jan 2019thats shady imo
Sep 17, 2020Odd Future....industry plants
- safe 🪩Sep 17, 2020JT is Electric
No thats a random P&P article I saw the same thing. The s*** has typos and is from this year. Of course somebody who probably browses KTT thinks that we made the term.
I mean theres like 4 different articles all placing origin of the word in hip hop message boards in 2012
ktt has threads using it in 2012
the site was at least one of the first forums if not the first forum 
Sep 17, 2020·1 replyktt’s own users constantly wanting to dismiss the site’s reach is pure comedy
- safe 🪩Sep 17, 2020·1 reply
@JayXCIX complex.com/music/2015/06/what-is-an-industry-plant
another complex article attributing it to here - Sep 17, 2020·1 replyhey man relax
ktt’s own users constantly wanting to dismiss the site’s reach is pure comedy
I know once @S said we have about 280,000 here so we're actually kinda large. I think we only have about 2000 consistent users tho, from what I can tell
- Sep 17, 2020·1 replysafe
@JayXCIX https://www.complex.com/music/2015/06/what-is-an-industry-plant
another complex article attributing it to herestop citing complex lmao Complex is literally running on KTT Threads and have been for a long time
- safe 🪩Sep 18, 2020·1 replyJT is Electric
stop citing complex lmao Complex is literally running on KTT Threads and have been for a long time
dailynexus.com/2019-10-10/the-significance-of-industry-plants-in-the-music-community
both attribute it to Hip hop forums/communities in the early 2010s
literally the fact that its clearly not a term that existed prior to 2010 and that it originated form hip-hop forums should be enough for you to accept that it either came from him or came from places directly associated with here like TheColi and got popular from here
- Sep 18, 2020hey man relax
https://dailynexus.com/2019-10-10/the-significance-of-industry-plants-in-the-music-community/
“coined by the hip hop community several years ago”
ill keep looking thoughmaybe im wrong
i think there was a term that was used for inorganic acts before tho
- Sep 18, 2020·2 repliessafe
https://dailynexus.com/2019-10-10/the-significance-of-industry-plants-in-the-music-community/
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/industry-plant-rap-indie-chance-akademiks-clairo-raury/Content?oid=68953004
both attribute it to Hip hop forums/communities in the early 2010s
literally the fact that its clearly not a term that existed prior to 2010 and that it originated form hip-hop forums should be enough for you to accept that it either came from him or came from places directly associated with here like TheColi and got popular from here
The first source is a college magazine
The second is a tabloid writing about Ak, Raury and Clairo (all new fixtures)
I searched google trends and these were the results
My conclusion is that it was not a popular term but was def used pre 2013. KTT popularized, NOT INVENTED. - safe 🪩Sep 18, 2020JT is Electric
The first source is a college magazine
The second is a tabloid writing about Ak, Raury and Clairo (all new fixtures)
I searched google trends and these were the results
My conclusion is that it was not a popular term but was def used pre 2013. KTT popularized, NOT INVENTED.but is that because of surrounding words? is there a way to filter by that EXACT term?
Sep 18, 2020"Lil Wayne"
lucid 🌹Sep 18, 2020·1 replyDAVIDPLil Pump
pump is certainly not an industry plant
- Sep 18, 2020·1 replylucid
pump is certainly not an industry plant
I thought he might have been tbh
- Sep 18, 2020·1 replyJT is Electric
The first source is a college magazine
The second is a tabloid writing about Ak, Raury and Clairo (all new fixtures)
I searched google trends and these were the results
My conclusion is that it was not a popular term but was def used pre 2013. KTT popularized, NOT INVENTED.put quotations around it too.
- Sep 18, 2020·1 replysafe
yea
like the kid Laroi opened for Juice WRLD and Denzel Curry in Australia in 2018 but only signed to a talent agency in Jan 2019thats shady imo
That's another way people get around the industry plant discourse.
They fake like they don't know what the spirit of the phrase means.
Like "I'm not signed to a major" but nigga, you're signed to like, ICM or some other big agency lol
I think in general though, artist who claim they are independent are f***ing around with the word, because TO ME, you can't be independent signed to a major management company, etc.
- safe 🪩Sep 18, 2020ClanWay
That's another way people get around the industry plant discourse.
They fake like they don't know what the spirit of the phrase means.
Like "I'm not signed to a major" but nigga, you're signed to like, ICM or some other big agency lol
I think in general though, artist who claim they are independent are f***ing around with the word, because TO ME, you can't be independent signed to a major management company, etc.
yea independence is another world that needs better defining here
by some standard drake is independent now
but a major label is still distributing his s***theres different levels to it
Sep 18, 2020·1 replysafeYea agree
Not in a pure sense but they intersect
Also pretty sure RMR was a plant - he apparently signed after going viral but it seems too convenient feel like label signed him and made him go viral
RMR was 100% a plant. There were lots of articles that were published at the same time describing Rascal as a "viral sensation" even though the video barely has 3.5m views as of right now and even less listens on Spotify
- safe 🪩Sep 18, 2020Freight 1STDAYOUT
RMR was 100% a plant. There were lots of articles that were published at the same time describing Rascal as a "viral sensation" even though the video barely has 3.5m views as of right now and even less listens on Spotify
yea lol all the s*** saying "went viral overnight" is so sus lmao
- safe 🪩Sep 18, 2020DAVIDP
put quotations around it too.
- lucid 🌹Sep 18, 2020DAVIDP
I thought he might have been tbh
nah just smokepurpp ties