Ok this Russ

The game is just oversaturated with trash artists and producers.

This honestly FEELS more right than it actually is for me.

Like on aggregate, what he's saying makes sense.

Until you put a terrible act on like a Hit-Boy beat and it sounds like s***.

So I mean...I guess the more accurate thing to say is that producers deserve all the clout because they do almost all of the leg work towards making it a good song. They get the song to 4th and goal and the artist takes over after that.

lol you're being obtuse. you can't have one without the other, there needs to be respect of both. it's not like kendrick would have had hit records if DAMN was an acapella album. so each party contributes half to the song itself.

i do think that artists do deserve clout too though, because their story, lifestyle, and persona do a lot to help promote the music

Seriously WTF kinda clout do people think producers deserve?

They are never gonna be as hype as the artist

That’s just the way it go

What’s this need for clout everyone got their p**** in a bunch for

Also, this tweet is downplaying the value of songwriting which is crazy coming from someone who's as great of a songwriter as teddy is.

The more and more I think about it, the more and more this FEELS more right than it actually is.

Like any song that is actually good, the production the writing and the person performing the record all work in concert w/each other and which means more fluctuates with each song.

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That’s… literally what I said. I said no one would listen to an instrumental album, and no one would listen to an acapella album.

T Pain is the one that said it’s the producer who deserves 100% of the credit. I said it’s 50/50.

no one would listen to an instrumental album

I don’t believe this

Metro could drop an instrumental album right now and it would not be half as successful as Not All Heroes Wear Capes. Sure, some of his fans would check for it and maybe regularly listen to it, but the casual listener isn’t checking for an instrumental hip-hop album and continually returning to it.

For example, Metro has all of the songs from that album posted on his YouTube account, both the instrumental versions and the versions with the artists featured on them. On every single one the instrumental version has significantly less views than the version with vocals.

No Complaints: 61 million views
No Complaints (Instrumental): 219K views

Space Cadet: 27 million views
Space Cadet (Instrumental): 778K views

Don’t Come Out The House: 13 million views
Don’t Come Out The House (Instrumental): 267K views

Keep in mind, Metro is probably Top 3 most popular rap producers since like 2014, so these numbers would be significantly less if it was a lesser known producer. Not taking anything away from it, but that album would have never went #1 if it was a fully instrumental project.

Yes because nobody is like "yo when insert rapper said insert bar, that s*** was crazy!!" Instead everyone is like "yo throw that instrumental on"

T Pain a legend but this is CAP and also a very generic opinion.

Word.

The beats have been the blandest they’ve ever been imo why I can’t get behind these new rappers for the most part… Carti excluded of course

This is why I stan producers instead of rappers now.

Alchemist >

Ok t pain u fat b****

Why don't artists just produce their own s*** mfs got millions of dollars to buy and learn any instruments they want and could probably get in contact with the best instrumental teachers

Lmao that’s so much time, effort, and dedication. These young guys just tryna get paid.

Yeah but that doesn't happen. I have never heard a popular rap song where the rapper is just saying bullshit over the track. There has to be some lyrics in it that people can enjoy. The most mumbly rappers like future or carti still make an effort to craft enjoyable lyrics

@KingWavv95pt2 That's true, but those people are in the extreme minority. If you check beat remakes and instrumentals, they usually have a small amount of views, nothing compared to actual songs with lyrics.

Faxx

Now pay us correctly like an actual business

Then we're really talking

Hip Hop producers and EDM/trap festival producers never occupied the same space

Carti’s lyrics being unintelligible at times since @ meh perfectly proves this point

As well as guys like 645AR