Tell me u don't know how autotune works without telling me

If u wanna use autotune, u still gotta be able to sing and hit correctly

If not, ur s*** is gonna sound robotically terrible

Comes up with great melodies
Has a dope voicez capable of delivering the intended mood/emotion he is going for
Charisma in spades
Knows how to create and structure a great song
Is great at utilizing features (good vision)
Knows how to perform in arenas

And last but not least, he's a sought after artist by his colleagues who always seem to praise him and hold his vision to high regard and they with him in da studio

I mean y'all can hate whatever ya want
Man is just a very talented musician

As if Kanye sounds any better with raw vocals

Frank Ocean is one of my favorite artists but he’s not the most talented or skilled vocalist. Drake didn’t have any proper vocal training until like 2017 supposedly but his singing on Take Care is so heartfelt. Pac isn’t technically the craziest rapper out there and in terms of skills is solid but not amazing but his message and passion was amazing. But these people all make music that resonates with us and makes us feel something talent is just your command of a certain tool it’s knowing what to do with that tool that makes great music

you niggas know nothing about music let alone how it’s created and it shows

Yall always sound stupid calling mfs “talentless”

Ehh not really. Ive seen some insane s*** done with vocal filters layered on.

Let’s go song for song then, I got a catalog

pretty sure if you would do this with 808s era Kanye you get something that sounds similar

In that case, would people itt be saying that prime Ye is a talentless hack?

In his earlier career he could actually sing (alot better than Ye anyway)

Love this song. Just the other day I saw someone credit kanye for popularizing auto tune. T pain had 2 albums out before 808’s. He’s so slept on

autotune > pitch perfect vocals that make me feel nothing

goated

Damn u got the wrong one, cause I do know my s***

You'll still need to record in a way that u get the desired fx
Just plain singing out of tune and false really don't do it

Even if u wanna distort ur voice with a specific sound, you'll have to record it correct to get the desired sound fx

U not singing Antidote without hitting them notes, unless u melodyne it

Tbh I actually think his singing voice got better
Richer and he does more diverse stuff

This is one of the worst a***ogys I’ve ever heard lol

its not that bad lmao

they never worked with raw vocals

unless ur a mixing guru hes right

if u suck at singing the autotune will make it sound ridiculous

if ur missing half the notes or have poor vocal tone it will still sound like s***

Alright let’s hear some of your music and thread can decide what’s better Mr Talent

I dont have that kind of ability, so its talent to me.

All this tells me, as someone who is working on indie music with sung elements, is that I need to become a better vocal engineer.
I make my s*** sound better, but not THAT MUCH better