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    Biden won the election, but I wont lie, the amount of votes Trump got this election shocked me.

    In my opinion, Trump has been a very bad president that did nothing to little good for the country. I mean, in the past 4 years, he didnt improve the country by much.

    He downplayed covid for months, then when it became very hard to ignore, he started to take it seriously.

    He has divided the country more than ever, and barely tried to unite it when he had the chance, and the only good he did is for the stock market and big corporations, and little for the average person in the US.

    Ofcourse this is only my opinion, and I can not fathom ever supporting someone like Trump.

    So if you are a Trump supporter, can you explain why you support him this much?

    No judgement, I just would really like to understand the logic of supporting someone like Trump.

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    I gotta say Trump being “divisive” is a media creation — the only thing that changed between Obama and Trump was left-leaning folx were forced to realize not everyone agreed with them about the state of the country aside from tax rates

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    gabapentin

    I gotta say Trump being “divisive” is a media creation — the only thing that changed between Obama and Trump was left-leaning folx were forced to realize not everyone agreed with them about the state of the country aside from tax rates

    The media made him go up there and say that s*** about Mexicans?

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    The media made him go up there and say that s*** about Mexicans?

    I’m saying trump supporters felt divided from the rest of America already. When you despise your spouse, is filing for divorce what makes things “divisive”?

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    his vocabulary

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    gabapentin

    I’m saying trump supporters felt divided from the rest of America already. When you despise your spouse, is filing for divorce what makes things “divisive”?

    No, you said the media created the narrative that he was divisive, which isn’t true. He was divisive as f*** with his own actions and words.

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    No, you said the media created the narrative that he was divisive, which isn’t true. He was divisive as f*** with his own actions and words.

    So you’re saying people didn’t realize the divisions in our society until trump said that migrants included rapists in their ranks?

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    The only reason I would think people would support Trump is because of his "I dont give a f***" persona, which was a 'fresh air' on US politics, and that felt like he was 'good' most of the time.

    But I would really like for a Trump supporter to really explain what they really see in Trump to support him.

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    gabapentin

    So you’re saying people didn’t realize the divisions in our society until trump said that migrants included rapists in their ranks?

    That’s not what I’m saying at all? Nobody ever said trump was the first divisive person in American history, this f***ing country is filled with people like that. He just became the most powerful person in the world and dog whistled and bloviated his brand of it.

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    I’m saying trump supporters felt divided from the rest of America already. When you despise your spouse, is filing for divorce what makes things “divisive”?

    He enabled those people. You’re right about him just utilising a political undercurrent. But him capitalizing on it makes him divisive. An opponent hanging their chin in the air still wouldn’t get ko’d until the person fighting them strikes. An open goal doesn’t mean anything if the striker doesn’t put the ball in the net.

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    COVID response should be more than enough for any rational person to see him as a doofus

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    The amount of votes that mf got isn’t shocking OP. It’s disheartening more than anything. This country is backwards af. Nothing I didn’t already know before this election, but being faced with this reality time and time again is beyond frustrating.

    F*** Trump and anyone that voted for that mayo monster

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    Trump being racist? Sure. Trump being an ultra-Republican?
    Without a doubt. But If trump on his own was really so “divisive” — and if this was such a bad thing— his statements wouldn’t have to be characterized in the least charitable way possible and repeated endlessly in pursuit of eyeballs. If he scored an open goal, the breathless coverage of his campaign by the media was certainly at least an assist. If he had been covered like Ron Paul, maybe he never wins in the first place, and we already have forgotten “some, I assume, are good people” by fall 2020. The fact remains that Trump is exciting, and that, sadly, is what brought people together in so much fascination with him enough to get him elected.

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    Trump made politics partisan asf in recent times. His fan base thinks his whole MAGA thing is like a team sport that they have to go out to the polls and vote for to win.
    Dudes would actively support/turn a blind eye to policy change that negatively impacts them if it meant their "team" won.
    Honestly OP I dont think we'll ever get a better understanding of his core base than that.

    Tangential to this but I think I saw someone in another politics thread who said they liked and supported Trump cause he "made politics more entertaining." looool.

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    People underestimate how much power racism still holds today. A lot of white people hate that the world looks different than them.

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    Trump made politics partisan asf in recent times. His fan base thinks his whole MAGA thing is like a team sport that they have to go out to the polls and vote for to win.
    Dudes would actively support/turn a blind eye to policy change that negatively impacts them if it meant their "team" won.
    Honestly OP I dont think we'll ever get a better understanding of his core base than that.

    Tangential to this but I think I saw someone in another politics thread who said they liked and supported Trump cause he "made politics more entertaining." looool.

    True, but you can't deny Democrats have been doing the same thing, and even more this year before the elections.

    Like Biden's comment "If you dont vote democrat, then you aint black"...as if a specific race is obligated to vote for them.

    Coz if we are being real, Biden is a trash candidate, but I guess I have to vote for him coz "I support democrats, and have to vote BLUE".

    The country is very divided because of this s***. People should vote for candidates that they believe will improve the country for the better, not vote for which 'team' I represent.

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    Deadass know way too many people that just liked pop culture business man icon trump before his run that voted for him just because of that alone

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    i don't know how to timestamp on mobile, but the video is only 12 minutes long and I think it explains it pretty well.

    starts at 3:55

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    Deadass know way too many people that just liked pop culture business man icon trump before his run that voted for him just because of that alone

    Same ones be mad at black people because they believe they all only voted for Obama cuz he's Black

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    Trump being racist? Sure. Trump being an ultra-Republican?
    Without a doubt. But If trump on his own was really so “divisive” — and if this was such a bad thing— his statements wouldn’t have to be characterized in the least charitable way possible and repeated endlessly in pursuit of eyeballs. If he scored an open goal, the breathless coverage of his campaign by the media was certainly at least an assist. If he had been covered like Ron Paul, maybe he never wins in the first place, and we already have forgotten “some, I assume, are good people” by fall 2020. The fact remains that Trump is exciting, and that, sadly, is what brought people together in so much fascination with him enough to get him elected.

    "his statements wouldn’t have to be characterized in the least charitable way possible and repeated endlessly in pursuit of eyeballs"

    Just go on his Twitter b. The media doesn't have to do anything to make him sound like an a******. He is divisive by design and there are dozens of examples of him deflecting from a failing or controversy by saying something divisive on Twitter.

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    People underestimate how much power racism still holds today. A lot of white people hate that the world looks different than them.

    that's a lazy take that the media shoves down our throats. Trump got 10 mil more votes in 2020 then he did in 2016. it wasn't because there's 10 mil more racists this go around. % wise, votes for Trump among black males, black females, and lgbtq all went up in 2020.

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    the right wing has indeed been aggressively targeting minorities with this whole "free thinker" "democratic plantation" nonsense like its rebellious to be conservative and like trump

    that and any non-white or non-male who gets up and says c00n s*** about their own people gets instant fame from right wing media