Feel like Tyler kinda been on the same s*** visually for a minute, I want him to really do something different for him with the next album era
Someone like Rocky has been beating Tyler with the videos for awhile imo
Nah it’s not a me problem. It’s a fact that that’s a common talking point used to s*** on hip hop.
And nah Carter 3 is better than every single one of Tyler’s last 3 and it’s not close
Who says it’s a common talking point when it’s a literal fact? I’m not, nor am I ever, trying to s*** on hip hop so that can’t be true.
Again, that’s your opinion and that’s fine. Respectfully I disagree and I love C3
Who says it’s a common talking point when it’s a literal fact? I’m not, nor am I ever, trying to s*** on hip hop so that can’t be true.
Again, that’s your opinion and that’s fine. Respectfully I disagree and I love C3
Wym old rockists say it all the time to s*** on hop hop. It’s just funny seeing Tyler fans adopt similar rhetoric to prop him up over other rappers
And sure it’s all opinions at the end of the day but yall gotta understand that outside of certain communities online you look crazy saying this s***.
Y’all keep putting Tyler in these convos against actual goats. He doesn’t have a C3, a GKMC, a Take Care, something that just dominated the culture
Wym old rockists say it all the time to s*** on hop hop. It’s just funny seeing Tyler fans adopt similar rhetoric to prop him up over other rappers
And sure it’s all opinions at the end of the day but yall gotta understand that outside of certain communities online you look crazy saying this s***.
Y’all keep putting Tyler in these convos against actual goats. He doesn’t have a C3, a GKMC, a Take Care, something that just dominated the culture
That’s not true though lmaoo and not for nothing the communities you’re referring to don’t see music as big as we do and that’s fine. How do I know this? Cause I’m surrounded by the people you’re probably referring to and that’s why I’m on here cause I love talking about music and enjoying it above the surface level.
By the last thing you said, honestly it just sounds like you simply either aren’t in tune with Tyler or you have some type of resentment towards his music. If it isn’t for YOU just say that but you cannot deny the last 3 projects + his influence on the game in general. The artists you named would even disagree with you
That’s not true though lmaoo and not for nothing the communities you’re referring to don’t see music as big as we do and that’s fine. How do I know this? Cause I’m surrounded by the people you’re probably referring to and that’s why I’m on here cause I love talking about music and enjoying it above the surface level.
By the last thing you said, honestly it just sounds like you simply either aren’t in tune with Tyler or you have some type of resentment towards his music. If it isn’t for YOU just say that but you cannot deny the last 3 projects + his influence on the game in general. The artists you named would even disagree with you
What communities do you think I’m referring to? I’m talking about hip hop fans that grew up on hip hop. Outside of communities like this and the RYMs of the world nobody is putting the likes of Flower boy over C3. A lot of Tyler fans just got into hip hop 5-7 years ago.
I was a Tyler fan when he first came out and I was in 6th grade. I’m just being honest about this s*** man. Yall think every criticism of your favorite rappers = hate lol. He is in his early 30s and doesn’t have one of those albums that had the culture in a chokehold like that.
What influence has Tyler had in the game based on his last three albums? What young niggas coming out now are making music that sounds like what Tyler is doing?
That’s not true though lmaoo and not for nothing the communities you’re referring to don’t see music as big as we do and that’s fine. How do I know this? Cause I’m surrounded by the people you’re probably referring to and that’s why I’m on here cause I love talking about music and enjoying it above the surface level.
By the last thing you said, honestly it just sounds like you simply either aren’t in tune with Tyler or you have some type of resentment towards his music. If it isn’t for YOU just say that but you cannot deny the last 3 projects + his influence on the game in general. The artists you named would even disagree with you
I get that his last 3 albums are critically acclaimed, but which one is talked about on the same level as C3, GKMC or Take Care? Which one had that level of impact? Genuine question. Most people can name songs from C3, GKMC or Take Care. Bar Earfquake, what other song from Tyler's three projects impacted the culture?
I mean I already have him as legend status tbh. and if we being honest he might be more consistent than the big 3. Even though Kendrick my favorite
He’s def the dark horse in that conversation
Feel like Tyler kinda been on the same s*** visually for a minute, I want him to really do something different for him with the next album era
Someone like Rocky has been beating Tyler with the videos for awhile imo
Tyler, Rocky and kendrick big 3 visuals of their generation?
Wym old rockists say it all the time to s*** on hop hop. It’s just funny seeing Tyler fans adopt similar rhetoric to prop him up over other rappers
And sure it’s all opinions at the end of the day but yall gotta understand that outside of certain communities online you look crazy saying this s***.
Y’all keep putting Tyler in these convos against actual goats. He doesn’t have a C3, a GKMC, a Take Care, something that just dominated the culture
You’re taking one comment I made and blowing it out of proportion to mischaracterize my argument. You said that “even just on a music level” Wayne’s s*** is better. I said ain’t no f***in way. Lacks consistency and his artistry pales in comparison. Next comment
You’re one of these guys that puts “dominating the culture” above what is actually good. Lil Bow Wow can dominate the culture for a minute but will it stick around in a meaningful way is the question. And you must be blind deaf and dumb if you didn’t see how FLOWER BOY literally changed the way everyone dressed and the sound of music. It created an entire bedroom pop and soft aesthetic rap obsession we’re still seeing today. So many copies and imitators. It literally turned everyone gay!
I get that his last 3 albums are critically acclaimed, but which one is talked about on the same level as C3, GKMC or Take Care? Which one had that level of impact? Genuine question. Most people can name songs from C3, GKMC or Take Care. Bar Earfquake, what other song from Tyler's three projects impacted the culture?
Most people I know actually can’t name songs from C3. You’re talking about rap fans over 30.
You’re taking one comment I made and blowing it out of proportion to mischaracterize my argument. You said that “even just on a music level” Wayne’s s*** is better. I said ain’t no f***in way. Lacks consistency and his artistry pales in comparison. Next comment
You’re one of these guys that puts “dominating the culture” above what is actually good. Lil Bow Wow can dominate the culture for a minute but will it stick around in a meaningful way is the question. And you must be blind deaf and dumb if you didn’t see how FLOWER BOY literally changed the way everyone dressed and the sound of music. It created an entire bedroom pop and soft aesthetic rap obsession we’re still seeing today. So many copies and imitators. It literally turned everyone gay!
Lacks consistency and his artistry pales in comparison“
lol bro this some RYM brained internet drivel. Wayne is probably the most consistent and prolific rapper in the history of the genre. How does his artistry pale in comparison? Wayne was a much more original artist than Tyler, much more creative as a rapper and lyricist.
“You’re one of those guys that puts “dominating the culture” above what is actually good”
Usually the music that dominates the culture is what’s good. Bringing up bow wow is just as disingenuous as people who bring up that “vanilla ice > nas “ point. Bow wow was a flavor of the moment star.
Lil Wayne and his music has stood the test of time as evident by how much hip hop looks like him even now almost 2 decades later
And as for your last point. The only people dressing like Tyler are “alt blacks” and white art hoes. And the bedroom pop s*** is not prevalent in rap AT ALL. It’s popular in the indie scene and I’d give Frank credit for that over Tyler
Lacks consistency and his artistry pales in comparison“
lol bro this some RYM brained internet drivel. Wayne is probably the most consistent and prolific rapper in the history of the genre. How does his artistry pale in comparison? Wayne was a much more original artist than Tyler, much more creative as a rapper and lyricist.
“You’re one of those guys that puts “dominating the culture” above what is actually good”
Usually the music that dominates the culture is what’s good. Bringing up bow wow is just as disingenuous as people who bring up that “vanilla ice > nas “ point. Bow wow was a flavor of the moment star.
Lil Wayne and his music has stood the test of time as evident by how much hip hop looks like him even now almost 2 decades later
And as for your last point. The only people dressing like Tyler are “alt blacks” and white art hoes. And the bedroom pop s*** is not prevalent in rap AT ALL. It’s popular in the indie scene and I’d give Frank credit for that over Tyler
oh my goddddd shut the f*** upppp they can both be great artists
Most people I know actually can’t name songs from C3. You’re talking about rap fans over 30.
This is where the grew up on hip hop s*** comes in. How do you think only people 30 and up know s*** off Carter 3. Like what the hell are we doing bro. This s*** 10x more classic than any Tyler album
oh my goddddd shut the f*** upppp they can both be great artists
No. I’m not gonna allow an actual GOAT to be disrespected on here by yall RYM ass niggas.
Most people I know actually can’t name songs from C3. You’re talking about rap fans over 30.
But I bet they can name all of Tyler’s track lists right lmao what are we talking about
What communities do you think I’m referring to? I’m talking about hip hop fans that grew up on hip hop. Outside of communities like this and the RYMs of the world nobody is putting the likes of Flower boy over C3. A lot of Tyler fans just got into hip hop 5-7 years ago.
I was a Tyler fan when he first came out and I was in 6th grade. I’m just being honest about this s*** man. Yall think every criticism of your favorite rappers = hate lol. He is in his early 30s and doesn’t have one of those albums that had the culture in a chokehold like that.
What influence has Tyler had in the game based on his last three albums? What young niggas coming out now are making music that sounds like what Tyler is doing?
Never used the word hate but now you’re saying s*** like RYM which kind of proves my point about the resentment cause that’s a hasty generalization.
And if you want examples: Teezo Touchdown, Kevin Abstract, Paris Texas, Kenny Mason, Uzi, Yachty, etc
I’m done arguing though. If you like Wayne more that’s fine but to sit here and say Tyler is corny, trash or not pushing the genre forward is a lie
Never used the word hate but now you’re saying s*** like RYM which kind of proves my point about the resentment cause that’s a hasty generalization.
And if you want examples: Teezo Touchdown, Kevin Abstract, Paris Texas, Kenny Mason, Uzi, Yachty, etc
A lot of Tyler fan opinions are born out of ignorance (just getting into hip hop) and dismissal of certain types of artists/rap music.
Why do you think Tyler tweeted this s*** bro lol.
I’m done arguing though. If you like Wayne more that’s fine but to sit here and say Tyler is corny, trash or not pushing the genre forward is a lie
I never said any of those things except for the last one
A lot of Tyler fan opinions are born out of ignorance (just getting into hip hop) and dismissal of certain types of artists/rap music.
Why do you think Tyler tweeted this s*** bro lol.
https://twitter.com/tylerthecreator/status/1438421397794172930Ok? I’m clearly giving you examples of someone that isn’t doing that LMAO I grew up on Wayne and he was my favorite rapper from 05-09 AND he’s still in my top 10 of all time greats
I never said any of those things except for the last one
Not just talking about you
Ok? I’m clearly giving you examples of someone that isn’t doing that LMAO I grew up on Wayne and he was my favorite rapper from 05-09 AND he’s still in my top 10 of all time greats
I’m just saying it’s not a hasty generalization. Those types make up a big chunk of Tyler’s fanbase.