insertcoolnamehere

5y

wow.

And this is what I'm talking about. Like they have an actual good line up of performers and not just "the superstars" and they didn't even bother to advertise this s***.

Like I actually wanna see this s***.

insertcoolnamehere

5y

Oh word. I aint know Pregnant P**** hit the charts lol.
I aint know Gravediggaz was on Kids Bop CDs.
I aint know Bizarre was performing at the Grammies.
I ain't know horrorcore rappers as an entire genre were getting awards and s*** :word:

dr3am_weaver_479

5y

he was kinda on point til the car thing thats such a dumb non-comparison lol

VA7a

5y

Lmao you know? You from Atlanta? You do understand Atlanta is home to so many alt-black people (Tyler audience), gay people (Tyler audience) and niggas who just like Tyler? You the one who said “what black city is Tyler hot in”, and I answered

The nigga just wants to make more rap music. I dont think you can assume that he wants more rap fans unless he says “I want more rap fans”. He’s been rapping his whole career and hasn’t always been experimental.

You are making assumptions. Give me some sources or your s*** is anecdotal as well. Also we not talking about the average fan of Tyler the Creator so don’t change your argument. Your claim was that his music isnt popular in black spaces. Prove that then.

Saint Aquinas

5y

Yeah and tyler isn't a hot act in atlanta. An example of a hot act is baby youngboy durk gunna and the other artists where we know where their core audience comes from.

I'm not from atlanta but I know what anecdotal evidence is lmao. Just cause he's hot in your circle don't make him a hot act in black america the way you suggest.

My s*** isn't anecdotal because I'm not using my own personal experience. I'm literally talking about what tyler has said

Smacked Voodoo

5y

They wasn't about to recognize a dude rapping about raping pregnant women and burning down schools over Neptunes-lite beats at the Grammys or BET Awards b ion know what to tell you. It's almost like once he started taking his music and public perception more seriously, other platforms would start taking him seriously as well...

Them acknowledging his growth artistically since Flower Boy isn't pandering. It's them acknowledging that he...has very clearly grown artistically and is rightfully getting awarded for it.

Tyler has frequently explained why he cares so much about BET awarding him and inviting him to perform at their shows. He grew up with the s***, and even though they weren't f***ing with him (for very obvious reasons) early in his career it's still a big deal to get that recognition.

BET as a media property has been ass over the last ten years or so. However something they have always managed to get right is giving dope ass tributes and celebrating Black icons.at their award shows. They never care about the artistry? Not when they've given special awards to people like Quincy Jones, Queen Latifah, Prince, TLC, Usher, Michael Jackson, Bobby Brown, and a slew of other artists?

Smacked Voodoo

5y

Yeeaah ion mean to be that kinda nigga, but the BET Hip-Hop Awards has often shined some light on the more obscure and/or upcoming rap acts in their cyphers lol this is not some kinda new thing.

insertcoolnamehere

5y

wow.

And this is what I'm talking about. Like they have an actual good line up of performers and not just "the superstars" and they didn't even bother to advertise this s***.

Like I actually wanna see this s***.

VA7a

5y

Lil Baby, Gunna and those other niggas literally run Atlanta and most of the hood, those are superstars in black spaces. That doesnt mean their cant be other popular acts. You wouldnt say TI isnt popular in Atlanta because he isnt NBAYB level.

You havent said s*** besides “Tyler changed his sound to rap more” Which is barely true because he’s always been rapping. He just not rapping about the edge lord s*** he did before. Im so done with you lmao you acting ed

DonutHole

5y

I don't believe that a significant amount of gay and/or black people in ATL care for tyler tbh but I have no way of knowing for sure, just the content creators I follow from ATL never mentionned him nor reference him in any way shape or form (just my personal observation)

he'll be on tour soon, we'll see what his audience looks like then

ps: I don't see ATL on the tour

Smacked Voodoo

5y

I think this whole thread is exposing that niggas just don't be paying attention to BET or our other Black centric media platforms.

Like I get it, y'all are above Tyler Perry's stereotype heavy content this can lead into a whole other discussion about respectability politics and Black people's internalized desire for white acceptance/caring too much about how cacs perceive Black people/culture so naturally y'all tuned out. I can't fault you for that and BET getting bought out by Viacom also doesn't help it much either. However, I'm seeing a lot of takes about BET and the more I read into them the more clear it becomes that these takes come from just not keeping up with particular aspects of BET.

insertcoolnamehere

5y

He was talking about the live acts. Though I aint know Smino was only in the cyphers (which to me makes me angry)

"obscure/upcoming rap acts"

My nigga Smino been putting in work since 2014. Almost a f***ing decade.

Talk about obscure, that's the s*** that gets me mad. Most of these niggas aint obscure, BET is just NOW catching up years f***ing late.

insertcoolnamehere

5y

TV1 >>>>>>> BET so don't even try to paint that broad brush man lol.

"respectability politics" like Tyler Perry himself don't be reinforcing that s***

VA7a

5y

Duluth is a little out of Atlanta. Atlanta has a bunch of COVID restrictions and its expensive to book in the middle of the NBA Season.

I didnt think that Tyler was popular in Atlanta until I got more in touch with the LGBT community not just in my area but in the bougie part of the city too.
Black gay people love Tyler especially since Flower Boy. This dude I used to work with who is a Barb also loves Tyler.

Kee

5y

Bro, is it really a big deal to get that recognition on BET? Times is changing.

Ofc, they wasn't going to give his early music any recognition because of many obvious reasons.

I still think they're not caring about his artistry, despite the amount of tributes in the past. I feel like they're doing this because he's popular right now, not that he's making great ass music.

But nevertheless, if Tyler still cares about it, I'm not going to go any further.

DonutHole

5y

hey man idk bout the covid restrictions but is ATL the only exception for this?

tyler appealing to bougie folk and a barb isn't surprising lol

Saint Aquinas

5y

Ja Rule was literally a hit in the female demographic and had rape lyrics

There's so many examples like this isn't about race know your black history

VA7a

5y

Black people dont go to concerts or festivals like that. (besides essancefest and other black centric festivals) So this is such a dumb point. Of course his fanbase is majority white, that’s not the point.