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  • yungcartier

    With rumors of him wanting to leave Bad Boy, it’s safe to assume Biggie didn’t want nothing to do with Puff anymore by 97’

    And Puff not wanting to lose his cash cow could’ve done something drastic to keep ownership of Biggie’s music

    Again this is all speculation but if there were no rumored tension between the two then you would have a point but you can even look at Puff’s history of how he treated his artists before and after BIG to know there was a falling out at some point

    also puff seeing the success of Pac musics after his death

    he might of wanted to replicate it

  • CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Don't leave while you're hot

    That comeback joint really didn't do much tbh

    Welcome back and the remix with Ye was fire tho

    the album was a dub and dipset started beefing with him and sent him back into hiding

  • May 29, 2024
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    He's indirectly responsible so f***em

  • May 29, 2024
    dontworry

    Actually thought pac was coming back 06

    I forgot bout the 06 s*** You couldn’t tell me he wasn’t in Cuba

  • May 29, 2024
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    BrickellBayside

    Puff getting Biggie killed is almost as insane of a rumor as Suge getting Pac killed

    Wtf do niggas be on to come up w/this s***

    That “suge shot me” in the background at the beginning of Bomb First is eerie

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    Whatcouldgowrong
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWZrXsOirtE&pp=ygUZcHVmZnkga25ldyBqaW1teSBoZW5jaG1lbg%3D%3D

    Alright I get this.

    I definitely don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Puff knew and basically set up the play for Jimmy to rob Pac because Pac owed money to him. Makes sense.

    I still can't get there with him killing off Biggie though. What we know happened makes too much sense.

    Puff and Big ran with Southside crips / Puff puts a bounty out on DR Chains and on Pac and Suge who have beef over the JD birthday party s*** / Crips get the DR Chain / Pac, Suge and MOB see the niggas who took the DR chain months earlier in Lakewood and jump Southside crips in Vegas / Southside responds by Killing Pac in the same night / Suge and the MOB retaliate by hiring poochie to kill Biggie.

  • May 29, 2024

    I’m just playing Diddy you know I love you

  • May 29, 2024
    Not here rn

    really starting to dislike this diddy guy the more i learn about him

    He might not be a good guy brother!

  • May 29, 2024
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    SyIIabIes

    That “suge shot me” in the background at the beginning of Bomb First is eerie

    Not really. This was already debunked

  • May 29, 2024
    humey

    I’m leaning towards absolutely

    IT would make a LOT of sense it was diddy now that we know he has no conscience

  • BrickellBayside

    Alright I get this.

    I definitely don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Puff knew and basically set up the play for Jimmy to rob Pac because Pac owed money to him. Makes sense.

    I still can't get there with him killing off Biggie though. What we know happened makes too much sense.

    Puff and Big ran with Southside crips / Puff puts a bounty out on DR Chains and on Pac and Suge who have beef over the JD birthday party s*** / Crips get the DR Chain / Pac, Suge and MOB see the niggas who took the DR chain months earlier in Lakewood and jump Southside crips in Vegas / Southside responds by Killing Pac in the same night / Suge and the MOB retaliate by hiring poochie to kill Biggie.

    like i said earlier, he might of not called for the hit , but he orchestrated the chaos for it to happen imo

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    Why the f*** would biggie be in LA lol

    Puff orchestrated!

  • May 29, 2024
    BrickellBayside

    Not really. This was already debunked

    I know it’s fake but it was just eerie

  • DREEZY

    Why the f*** would biggie be in LA lol

    Puff orchestrated!

    and go up to a LA radio station and diss pac after his death

    Gene deal said they didn't have enough security at all to be moving around LA like they were

  • May 29, 2024
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    so much pain

    No

    now Pac…

    Why so quick to say No?

    According to this information biggie hated diddy at this point

  • DREEZY

    Why so quick to say No?

    According to this information biggie hated diddy at this point

    I sincerely doubt it was hate.

    I know pictures and videos don't tell everything, but Puff and Biggie came to LA in February 97' for the Hypnotize video, Soul Train Awards, promo, etc. and by all accounts they were on good terms.

    I don't doubt that Biggie's fate with Bad Boy and Puff would have ended badly, but I doubt that it was there at that point. If Biggie hated puff during that time, he damn sure hid it well lol

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    Whatcouldgowrong

    you mean Jimmy Iovine and Time warner had more of a motive to have pac gone.

    Suge said Jimmy Iovine called him after Pac's death and said "You hit the lottery, no one makes more money than a dead man" in his documentary before he went to jail

    Whats this documentary called Free Suge he know the truth

    Edit: im sayin Free Suge cause I genuinely believe he had nothing to do with Pac or Big

    Poochie just a fall guy for lapd/noi

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    BrickellBayside

    It's extremely far fetched because a lot of that is hindsight. Sure I'll be missing you became a mega smash, but it's not like he said "let me kill biggie so I can get my s*** off and make m's"

    Biggie was a cash cow by early 97'. There was no reason to kill him off. Again, he only had one album out. Given the success Biggie was enjoying, it would have made wayyy more sense to at least pump out a couple more albums out of him. He was 24 man.

    The concept of a rapper being more profitable dead than alive wasn't really a thing yet in 1997. He had one album.

    Yes it was Jadakiss said you know dead rappers get better promotion in like 98 99 lol

  • May 29, 2024
    Russlio

    well at very least von lived his rap

    both crashed out over some dumb s***

    Alas, very young too

  • May 29, 2024
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    Elric

    Did he not stomp a dude on camera the day he got killed

    You'll notice I said don't compare to a murderer

  • KILLA CAM 300

    Yes it was Jadakiss said you know dead rappers get better promotion in like 98 99 lol

    Well yeah Jada said it then because Pac and Biggie had already died by then lol

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    Whats this documentary called Free Suge he know the truth

    Edit: im sayin Free Suge cause I genuinely believe he had nothing to do with Pac or Big

    Poochie just a fall guy for lapd/noi

    this one

  • You will never convince me that Suge and Puff being that close to the murders makes sense if they're ordering hits on Pac and Big

    Like, Puff is in the 1st car, and Biggie is in the 2nd.

    There's no way Puff couldn't have legislated himself out of the situation entirely if the goal was to off Big

  • May 29, 2024
    Whatcouldgowrong

    you mean Jimmy Iovine and Time warner had more of a motive to have pac gone.

    Suge said Jimmy Iovine called him after Pac's death and said "You hit the lottery, no one makes more money than a dead man" in his documentary before he went to jail

    in the meantime it's Jimmy Iovine time

  • May 29, 2024

    Thread inspired me to listen to 2 of americas most wanted and i just noticed something rn

    Maybe im late af and never put the two together but Snoop verse he goes “think i got a black bimmer but my dream is to own a fly casino like bugsy siegel”

    Always liked that bar but i never noticed how it paints the picture of Pacs death the black bimmer and casinos/Vegas na wtf