If we really wanna have that discussion, Drake brings up a point that men really have low standards with the women they choose to f***, when you really think about it.

do you know the effects of abortions on the mental and physical of a woman? Its not like clicking a button.
Also its the mans fault too and he needs to be a MAN and take care of the Kid he decided to have by f***ing a woman and bussing inside her.

just say yall don't want to take care of the kids you don't want lol

yall are deadbeats in the making. if you weren't assaulted/trapped you don't get an excuse to not take care of child you willingly made

it's not really fair to have this discussion if we don't even get to hear from the other side.

People change when a baby comes in the picture. The baby that I was raising, a big motivator of the mom even having it is because she thought it would make the dad stick around because he was also acting happy about it. Baby came out, they both went ghost.

I knew a girl was with her nigga for YEARS. One day she announced she was pregnant, week or so later suddenly all the niggas pics is gone and homie peaced out. Now they were together for years, she didn't think he would go out like that in terms of a baby. You just don't always know with people so you can't use the logic of avoid those types at all costs.

You talking about his BM or just his choice of women in general

it's a bunch of irresponsible niggas tryna force women to fix their mistake

"she didn't think he would go out like that in terms of a baby. "

once again (radical view), did they ever have that discussion? Did they ever talk about the possibiltiy of having kids (when they were together for YEARS?)

If I'm with a shawty for years, we've already had talked about the possibility of bringing life and when or if we both wanted to or not.

@dotM his BM

Talking about something is different than reality. Me and my girl flirted the idea of having a baby a lot, guess what, we raised one for a year and came to the conclusion we would wait for our own. Just because something seems nice in theory, doesn't always translate to it in reality. They were together for years, I'm sure they talked about having a baby a bunch of times, when the heat turned on that nigga got out the kitchen.

Sometimes his BM looks pretty good and sometimes her face looks a little weird.

She got a 10/10 body tho. She was also getting passed around and drizzy just got lazy 🤷‍♂️

Facts. niggas be chasing anything with a fat ass instead of a woman they see themselves building a future with. Girls really just get a BBL and do their makeup and thats all they need to get a global superstar to have a baby with them.

We just think different bro.

When it comes to another breathing life, I don't really take that lightly. So I'd just re-approach that topic all the time in my own case.

These people you bring up in your examples (imo) don't sound like they were that responsible or really understood the hardwork that comes with reproduction. And I just don't really have that same experience. Sorry m8.

lmao if you don't want a kid with someone you bust in then you didn't willingly decide to be a father

if you choose to c***in a woman, you just agreed to the chance of pregnancy and having a kid. you willingly came in her, and if you're having sex, i'd hope you understand how s***works

so yes, you did decide that. you just hoped she didn't get pregnant or keep the child cause you didn't want a kid. maybe don't do s*** if you don't want the potential consequences

Agreed and I carry myself in this manner. Not every house is built with this mindset, while it isn't about protecting nor chastising others, the cause of pregnancy isn't so cut and dry. It should be a case by case study when dealing with broken homes or co-parenting.

I know bum men who had intent to trap women and bum women who had the intent to trap the man. It's just weird hearing an individual say "I'm going to trap him/her"

Op not lying

agreed

she should know when shes messing with a f***boi

Not how it works takes two to tango

If women can make an independent decision so can the man

Yea yea ad hominem ain’t gon change the point, stay dangerous

your folks shouldn't have stayed dangerous 🤢🤢

a disappointment woulda been prevented fasho lol.

crazy part is none of yall men in here agreeing would dare share these opinions with yo girl cause you know you'd be wrong

21st century “man”

Lack intelligence so become emotional and throw ad hominems

21st century "man"

Abandon responsibilities.

Projection
Shout-out OP cuz we had this same convo in class and I made the same point and even women agreed wit me

U niggas on here jus think u need to put a cape on to save sumone