I havent read every page but i think an important point with this topic is that pregnancy is not equal. Women have to carry a bigger load

You sound like an anti vaxxer

I think it's more along the lines of we can't even all get behind the idea of taxing the rich let alone more on the common man.

There are women who trap men. Do trapped men get any lenience from this?

Women carry a bigger load voluntarily if they go to term. But the thread was/is much bigger than that anyways. No one is saying women should be forced into abortions or anything.

Almost reported just because you had to paint that picture. f*** you bruh

How? I never said don't use it, I said the effective rate shows why it's not a magic answer as far as 100% contraceptives go, we have discussed contraceptives with higher effective rates than that. And not once in this thread did I say don't do it. I said the thread is about something else don't be obtuse fam.

I understand where @op is coming from. Women can abort the kid even tho the father wants it but the man has no say in whether he has to pay for the kid

This falls inline with other things discussed itt that trapping someone with a baby shouldn't be a thing at all. Drake for example didn't want Adonis, but because of his mistake he is either forced in the father role while he's trying to maintain his career, or having a hefty amount taken out his checks for 18 years. That's how you use a baby to trap a nigga.

Ok we now defending deadbeat celebrities, you lost the plot @op

wont you think of the millionaires that just wanna f*** raw?

It was just an example of someone that clearly didn't want the child being forced to either have involvement or pay a one stand for 18 years. Many of which I seen women come in with the child support getting the most expensive s*** off the menu and feeding the lil nigga a 5pc nugget.

once you reach a certain tax bracket you should already know what it is. People like Drake, Future, and others that act oblivious to that are just being dumb.

Why are you over simplifying what's said because of who I used as an example? Should I have said your daddy nigga would that have been a suitable example for you? You don't know that that man didn't strap up, he rich f***ing a backpage p***star and always raps about condoms, if anything don't this defeat your point about contraceptives being the total solution?

There's a reason most the "smart" rappers f*** the same "5-6 girls" for a reason. India Love aint tryna have no babies

But you're missing my point because of who I used for an example bro. Think bigger, think of the point I was laying out with it. Same s*** happened to Drake in his tax brackets I've seen happen to niggas living around my way.

not reading all these pages rn, but the whole "men should get to abandon/not pay for a kid if they wanted to abort is not different from a dude knocking a girl up and not paying child support or helping with his child

don't nut in women if a) you don't want a child in general at that time and/or b) don't want a child with that woman

legislation over whether a man has an obligation is different, seeing as most child centered stuff favors women, but I don't see that happening cause of my first point

Heres the thing tho. If a nigga wanted to have a kid but his shorty didnt want to she could have the abortion no problems and his opinion on the matter doesnt mean s***. You cant have it both ways.

And this is coming from a nigga who doesnt really rock w abortion or deadbeat fathers

Women carry a bigger load in every situation. If they continue with the pregnancy they have a baby 9 months and a lot of physical and mental changes. If they decide to abort, they still carry a bigger load. Abortions are very difficult man, its not something easy.

I understand your point, a child is something life-changing and if you dont want it, it can be the worst, but i think that there are enough contraceptive methods a man can use that he forsure isnt getting anyone pregnant.

Maybe there could be some law change if the girl poked a hole in the condom or sabotaged one of ur contraceptive methods

many people including strippers like Jhonni Blaze have said homie don't use condoms.

And don't bring my folks into this. Just because you somehow found a way to brag about your mom being a deadbeat don't mean the rest of us had parents that did that.

OP u right

Women have the choice to keep the baby or abort it but they wanna force niggas and demonize em when they not involved

S*** crazy

I have this like radical view that men should have high standards about the women they choose to f*** soooooooo

trapping niggas is desperate and toxic behavior that I'd just avoid at all costs, it's no ass that big.

I brought your folks into it because you hyper focused on the example and not the point being laid out in it. I don't give a s*** what your dad doing, my point is it happens to regular niggas not just people who got a M in their account.

If he piped her raw, he should've been more careful, but you're saying if he did wear a condom and it happened then what?

he should've still been more careful and been more choosy.