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  • Sep 18, 2021
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    Old Man Robin

    Some truly insane post itt man

    Welcome to ktt where you are punished for thinking critically.

  • Sep 18, 2021
    plants

    I'm literally F tier s***post trolling your stupid ass because you're saying deadbeats are fine you idiot

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    CLB BMO

    Bro thats still your responsibility lmao what

    Where's her responsibility should she choose to abort it?

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    yall keep tryna make these things seem equal but yall realize a woman can also abandon her child right

    women and men can both abandon....but only a woman can have an abortion. there is no equals here

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    Zezima

    @op you are right on this issue and numerous men over the years have voiced the same concern.

    In my opinion, men’s right to abandon should be equivalent to how long women have the right to abort.

    If you abandon after the legal amount time you have to do so, then you should still be held financially responsible. However, if you abandon within the abortion window then you should only have to pay a one-time abandonment fee that will be paid to the mother come birth and be done. Similar to how women have to pay for an abortion.

    Now if you abandon, you do not have the legal right to try to establish a relationship later until the child is 18, in which case they are grown. If you attempt to come back in the picture, then you should be charged with a crime and be given a restraining order.

    If the woman doesn’t tell you she’s pregnant until after the window for you to abandon, then you should still have the right to abandon for at least 30 days past the day you were informed.

    Abandonment fee 😂😂😂 holy F***

  • Sep 18, 2021
    TIIMMY BURNER

    Where's her responsibility should she choose to abort it?

    🎯

  • Sep 18, 2021
    Zezima

    Welcome to ktt where you are punished for thinking critically.

    Not the free thinker argument

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    plants

    I'm literally F tier s***post trolling your stupid ass because you're saying deadbeats are fine you idiot

    You not really trolling me, I find the discussion amusing lmao

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    OnyxShine9

    Nobody is skating past it. It just doesn’t matter. These are the risks involved with sex, and if you didn’t want it you should have been more careful or shouldn’t have had sex. It is as simple as that. You don’t need s***to live.

    “ it just doesn’t matter”
    There lies the problem lmao

    Shawty can do whatever she wants and everything goes

    The nigga just has to go along with it, even though it impacts his life

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    TIIMMY BURNER

    You not really trolling me, I find the discussion amusing lmao

    Amuse your son my nigga

  • Sep 18, 2021
    DR LONGSTROKE

    Abandonment fee 😂😂😂 holy F***

    Women have to pay a fee for abortion, men should have to do the same if they choose to abandon. I’d only argue that fee be given to the women after giving birth, as that’s the least the abandoning father should do.

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    this is 1000% true if the condom broke or if the pregnancy was unintentional

    if you intentionally impregnated her and ya'll had that conversation and decided to start that journey then thats your responsibility

    if it was accidental then you have very right to walk out and you shouldn't be required to pay child support either

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    KalamariFromParty

    Why don’t you actually respond to what I said

    Imagine you have a happy family, with a wife of 10 years and you guys have a 6 year old daughter. One day you come home to a note on the table that just says “bye”, with your wife and daughter gone
    She decided she wasn’t happy with you anymore and is moving back in with her parents with your kid

    You are f***ed, and there is little chance you can do anything about it

    All facts no cap but if you want to have rights to your children as a man you’re a cringe men’s rights loser far right whatever other s*** these f***ers gon say lmfao

    Anything criticizing the way things are done is met with shaming tactics

  • Sep 18, 2021
    TIIMMY BURNER

    But y'all don't say that to the woman?

    Well we can say that all day to the woman, sure. But we cannot force her to get an abortion. It is ultimately her call that you must comply with.

  • Sep 18, 2021
    YANDHI

    yall keep tryna make these things seem equal but yall realize a woman can also abandon her child right

    women and men can both abandon....but only a woman can have an abortion. there is no equals here

    As someone who's mom abandoned him, I know it all too well. For all that she could've left me on the chopping room floor. My dad didn't make the decision for me to be here, she did. So it's even weirder for moms to leave.

  • Sep 18, 2021
    TIIMMY BURNER
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    In my opinion, it takes two to make a child. If early in the pregnancy a man asks you to have an abortion, and you refuse, you're acknowledging he wanted nothing to do with the kid early and still choosing to go through with it. That's not on him.

    I say this because in the same vain, if a woman is the one in the relationship that decides she isn't ready and gets an abortion there is nothing seen as wrong there. Would y'all agree?

    I think you underestimate the impact having an abortion can have on people. If you are responsible for a fetus growing inside someone, you can't be surprised if someone isn't prepared to have an abortion. Not everyone agrees with it, not everyone would be prepared to have one even if they are pro choice.

    A lot of things get lost among the abortion debate and one of them is that it's still a big deal for most women even if they are pro choice and would have one if it came to it.

    In my opinion, once you have impregnated someone as an adult, it's already too late for you to run away, you've created something and should deal with the consequences and responsibility of that event, whatever happens.

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    KalamariFromParty

    If you knowingly have an STD and lie to a woman and say you don’t, and then she contracts it/gets it
    She can sue you for damages. She only agreed to have s***with you under false pretenses

    If a woman lies to you and says she’s on the pill or has an IUD, and you nut in her and she gets pregnant
    You can not sue her, despite you only agreed to nut in her under false pretenses

    U spitting facts in this thread. But as men we just need to go with the blows . It’s just the truth of the matter, legal system supports women more than men. Just a part of life.

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    treeman

    You get 0 p**** so you don’t even need to be involved in this conversation

    God damn this was a mean burn, this nigga was ready 😭😭😭

  • DR LONGSTROKE

    All facts no cap but if you want to have rights to your children as a man you’re a cringe men’s rights loser far right whatever other s*** these f***ers gon say lmfao

    Anything criticizing the way things are done is met with shaming tactics

    SIGN language
    Shame, insult, guilt, & a need to be right

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    Jihyo

    this is 1000% true if the condom broke or if the pregnancy was unintentional

    if you intentionally impregnated her and ya'll had that conversation and decided to start that journey then thats your responsibility

    if it was accidental then you have very right to walk out and you shouldn't be required to pay child support either

    Still shouldn’t be in my opinion, because if a woman talked up wanting a baby and got pregnant she’d still be entitled to aborting if she chooses to.

    Men should be afforded the same opportunity.

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    GodsFavoritePerson

    U spitting facts in this thread. But as men we just need to go with the blows . It’s just the truth of the matter, legal system supports women more than men. Just a part of life.

    This is the main point tbh
    It’s not fair but we know the rules and should live with it
    Knowing everything we know about the laws if you out here nuttting in random women I feel zero sympathy for you

  • Sep 18, 2021
    KalamariFromParty

    If you knowingly have an STD and lie to a woman and say you don’t, and then she contracts it/gets it
    She can sue you for damages. She only agreed to have s***with you under false pretenses

    If a woman lies to you and says she’s on the pill or has an IUD, and you nut in her and she gets pregnant
    You can not sue her, despite you only agreed to nut in her under false pretenses

    And like I told them earlier too about exes literally refusing to stop riding men when I was coming to the point I've had to throw them off. But to their logic if she got pregnant that's all on me even though I ain't want the kid lol

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    Avant

    “ it just doesn’t matter”
    There lies the problem lmao

    Shawty can do whatever she wants and everything goes

    The nigga just has to go along with it, even though it impacts his life

    Correct. When you bring a child into the world your life is no longer yours, it is the child’s. You created them, you raise them.

  • Sep 18, 2021
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    GodsFavoritePerson

    U spitting facts in this thread. But as men we just need to go with the blows . It’s just the truth of the matter, legal system supports women more than men. Just a part of life.

    Why are you not allowed to question or criticize that the legal system supports women more than men at all without being met with vitriol or accusations of hating women or being a loser or some dumb s*** like that?

    Why do you just have to accept that? I thought its all about equality?

    😂😂😂

  • Avant

    This is the main point tbh
    It’s not fair but we know the rules and should live with it
    Knowing everything we know about the laws if you out here nuttting in random women I feel zero sympathy for you

    Yup. All about accountability

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