Ppl always said that but there’s literally no proof

What is actually true is he had connections to the Obama family and politicians in Chicago, which meant a lot of easy sway, plus more money, and then he had an Apple Music marketing deal so people swore he wasn’t independent.

In my eyes, he’s independent technically, but not on some crazy come up like xxx or juice or peep did

Oh s***

FHD overrated as s*** and aged pretty poorly

Feel like that album is mostly loved Bc nostalgia

He fired pat the manager and hired Taylor Bennett and their dad so he’s never coming back. His image and promotion comes off so corny now

The Heart & The Tongue was a great song but yeah he should’ve dropped an album or project not long after Big Day flopped

Iirc there were rumors about solo work going all the way back to before coloring book even dropped for his debut album and then he just up and scrapped all of it

Wtf is the blog era

I remember reading his ex manager say the album wasn’t started when he started that stupid ass owbum promotion, but the other side of it is a ton of tracks were holdovers from GAJ that he just decided to make way worse when Kanye got bored of the project.

He was already completely a mainstream artist at the time
Blog era ending didnt hurt him at all id argue, if it did it was minimal

When music blew up on blogs. Chance, weeknd, party, etc etc. predates the SoundCloud era

I feel like this can go to the extremes as well, because Uzi kinda sacrificed his new sound to basically do his 2016 gimmick all over again, because his stans demanded it

Makes a lot of money but he’s fell out of the public’s attention

06-13 rappers who blew up from blogs

Chance was one of the later blog rappers

But s*** like Cool Kids, Cudi, Blu, Mickey Factz, even Drake at first was prime blog rap. Then of course like Odd Future and ASAP

tbh he should’ve just dropped the album ppl were f***ing with right after TBD so ppl would lay off him

He was massive back in 2016. Like most people on this site I Hard to think of anyone else who messed their moment up as much as him in recent memory.

He was so mainstream by 2016 that he was way beyond needing hype from blogs. He got every mainstream look an artist could want. His career was so perfect it was like a film at that point. It's almost definitely the music that messed it up for him.

If there'd been one hit song on Big Day it might have saved him even if it was a mid album but the whole era was a disaster

Cudi was established enough to survive SB2H though in a way that I think chance couldn't survive The Big Day. Even at the time, only a couple months later Cudi was back in with casual fans because of Father Stretch My Hands. Chance needed to solidify himself with TBD or at least have one song blow up from it

i see a lot of similarities between the perception of trump and the perception of chance

I mean chance has a hardcore dedicated fan base and mainstream appeal. Cudi was in the industry longer before experimenting but I feel chance couldve bounced back

How so?

I don’t think his career is over

One song about police brutality featuring John Legend that they can play at awards shows and he’s back

But Chance has also never really had a proper hit as much as No Problem or Sunday Candy reached a lot of people.

Cudi was a lot safer to have an album that missed because he had hits on the level of Day N Nite and Pursuit of Happiness. People were going to be listening to Cudi for a longtime whatever happened in 2015, Chance wasn't established like that yet.

Plus Chance wasn't going to be providing hooks on albums as big as Pablo and Birds in the Trap soon after the album. That kinda thing gave Cudi the perfect opportunity to still have casual fans listening to him

I feel like hip hop has moved on so much from a time when that would work. More than the blog era Chance feels like the last person to make it using the mid2000s-mid2010s blueprint (musically)

He dropped a terrible album

That’s really all there is to it

I’m not saying Chance needs to go back and try to recapture what made him great, he just needs to make something that isn’t next level dogshit like The Big Day.

not like there's new good music to discuss