OPJan 23·1 reply
TubigCommunist Slow Jams
If anything that shows he’s probably not actually communist lolol
- OPJan 23·1 reply
inspoeaterHalf of a rap niggas ranking and perception is just how they market themselves and not the actual music lmao
How was JPEG marketed in a way that would make him come off as Comrade Jpeg?
Jan 23·edited·1 replyinsertcoolnamehereThat’s not radical politics thats just dissing ben carson lol. Same year he dropped “i might vote 4 donald trump”
Jpeg always been a chronically online troll that knows how to shoot guns (went to the army) and grew up in a racist environment so he just hates white people.
That’s literally it.
NOTHING in there automatically makes someone a radical, the weird black israelite nigga that shot up a school had screenshots dissing white ppl but no one is calling him radical for that.
aii u win tbh
though i small disagreemet u can make a poltical song more than lyrics like using samples but in jpeg context id agree its im being more edgy
- Jan 23·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
How was JPEG marketed in a way that would make him come off as Comrade Jpeg?
Rapping over the beats he does (i love em but its also the type of s*** “alternative rap fans” “i dont really listen to rap” would love lol) and vaguely mentioning whatever politics that got niggas feeling like he dead prez lol
- OPJan 23Choking· edited
aii u win tbh
though i small disagreemet u can make a poltical song more than lyrics like using samples but in jpeg context id agree its im being more edgy
I’m not tryna come hostile at YOU as moreso these folks (cause they been getting on jpeg for this for months) and I just want jpeg fans to have a honest discussion with themselves and ask “when has JPEG been open about his politics and not just been edgelord?”
Like i told @inspoeater if this was like Noname with a beyonce feature ? Hell have at it, I’ll join yall in the “lol hold up wtf girl” accountability s***.
Jpeg just never been that to me i think lol
- Tubig 🌊Jan 23·2 repliesinsertcoolnamehere
If anything that shows he’s probably not actually communist lolol
- OPJan 23·1 replyTubig
https://on.soundcloud.com/VKtGwZgjESdRqcfLA
I see a question mark my brother
- Tubig 🌊Jan 23insertcoolnamehere
I see a question mark my brother
Didn’t realize SoundCloud embeds don’t work no more
- OPJan 23Tubig
https://on.soundcloud.com/VKtGwZgjESdRqcfLA
Oooh.
Yeah, i mean everyone was dissing pharrell for #thenewblack my guy
- OPJan 23
But if you want to use that as a source for “maybe jpeg has some radical politics” then im not gon kill u for it.
- OPJan 23·1 replyinspoeater
Rapping over the beats he does (i love em but its also the type of s*** “alternative rap fans” “i dont really listen to rap” would love lol) and vaguely mentioning whatever politics that got niggas feeling like he dead prez lol
We really need some of the street niggas to branch out and get on them beats man smh lol.
Imagine lil baby over jpeg
Jan 23·1 replyall I'll say about JPEG is that during his come up he made music that was relatively offputting and experimental in a time of extreme commericalisation of hip hop.
Even white kids who hated hip hop could not shut up about clout and clout chasing and here was this guy who seemingly said real s*** and seemed to have a contempt for the commericalisation of the genre. He was kind of like a puddle in the desert.
- OPJan 23theboy
all I'll say about JPEG is that during his come up he made music that was relatively offputting and experimental in a time of extreme commericalisation of hip hop.
Even white kids who hated hip hop could not shut up about clout and clout chasing and here was this guy who seemingly said real s*** and seemed to have a contempt for the commericalisation of the genre. He was kind of like a puddle in the desert.
Yeah all of this can be valid
But also if im jpeg I probably dont like this tho lol
- OPJan 23
goretexi mean that meeting that happened in the 90s is the reason why right?
I feel like mad people may have felt that way in the present and changed as they got older but i think thats a bigger topic of discussion about how conservative african americans truly are, especially once they get to a certain age. though there is a huge difference between that and the examples you are explaining
some niggas are undercover coons definitely used those movements to platform themselves and get pushed further or support (i feel like theres a couple of niggas like that right now in the underground, will not name) but there was a time where hip hop was a vessel for change and revolution, it just didnt last long.
we all know who own all of this s***, and we all know they can buy anyone. because at the end of the day, when s*** hit the fan and you got a family to take care of, a payday that guarantees generational wealth and security is far more enticing than revolution.
they got us tbh
Im not gon lie I dont put as much stock into that meeting as much as I do just the “sign of the times” that was always changing with music.
Cause up til shiny suit era it felt like there was still a balance of the type of artists that could “prosper” like Arrested Development had hits.
And Pac himself did say “a black man has 5 years of peak anger until the power is gone from him” and maybe all these rappers we used to look up to that stand up for something are now just tired.
That last paragraph od true and depressing lol.
Jan 23
mr get doughDe La Soul Is Dead 1991
This is nuts symbolically
- Jan 23inspoeater
I mean the premise of what Drake said about Kendrick is this
And while I love Kendrick and think he’d be a relevant force in rap without the pitchfork white critic love
These past few years since 2012-2016 and s*** like the Washington politician kufi pic lol , the climate is more ripe than ever for a revolutionary rapper to take over again bc of the factors Drake brings up/implies with Kendrick even if Drake himself didnt really say it the right way with the slave line
Its just that they gotta also have a true following organically with niggas/black people in their city it cant be white hipsters primarily gassing you and it “work” and no one really been able to pull off doing both of those except kendrick. Thats why lil baby bigger picture seemed like an exciting moment lol
@BRAVE had a great post on this one time about street energy vs revolutionary energy in rap and how we pivoted waaaay into street energy when at one time it was both lol
The timeline could have been changed here easily if Interscope bails Pac out instead of Death Row
Jan 23·1 replyIt absolutely bummed me out to pick up the reissue of Stakes is High and see a contemporary shout-out on the back to Malachi York; f*** the comeback if you’re gonna give props to a literal child s***trafficker
Jan 23insertcoolnamehereWe really need some of the street niggas to branch out and get on them beats man smh lol.
Imagine lil baby over jpeg
Man the thought of Veeze rapping over something like this:
Jan 23Someone on page 1 said black people aren’t as monolithic on these topics as people think and I think that’s really the main focal point
At the end of the day black people are people. People are selfish by nature and trying to get ahead, protect ourselves and our own. That’s just your natural inclination as a human being in our society.
As someone from the outside looking in but born and raised in Harlem/BX and been around hip hop my entire life none of this has ever surprised me because it falls in line with what I’d expect to see from any group of people.
I know a lot of folks see s*** with colored lenses and think everyone is looking out for the greater good, tryna uplift the people, all this stuff. Really tho 90% of us just tryna get ahead for ourselves.
- OPJan 23babylon sherm
It absolutely bummed me out to pick up the reissue of Stakes is High and see a contemporary shout-out on the back to Malachi York; f*** the comeback if you’re gonna give props to a literal child s***trafficker
that's 100% solely Pos. Don't put that on Dave or Maseo and in his (and a LOOOOT of new york rappers even DOOM and jaz/jay z at one point) defense, nobody knew about that s***. You ask posdneous about that today he'd probably say as much.
cause he was deeeeep into the Nuwabian/Mr. York mumbo jumbo (i call it that cause if you really read it into it, a lot of s*** don't be making sense. You gotta be a weirdo to have coli niggas not even f*** with your teachings) even back on Buhloone Mindstate.
I watch for the power to run out on the moon
And that'll be sometime soon
(Dr. York taught folks we was living on a 6,000 year moon cycle and was approaching the end of said cycle)that's another flaw of the 90s. There was a severe lack of information so you had a lot of people falling victim to folks that took advantage of the disenfranchised and disillusioned for personal gain. Malachi York was and is an evil man who is definitely gonna burn in hell and deserves to get curbstomped to the concrete 1000 times over.
(DOOM and Subroc on York's compound in Georgia)
Jan 23·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
fight the power (sometimes)(With the exception of its inception up until the mid 80s. Because that was when it wasn’t cosigned or accepted by the outside capitalistic world “yet”)
Been seeing all the audible disappointment about rappers kowtowing for Trump this week (which surprises me, cause they always f***ed with him lol. It was just popular to hate him in 2016 after o-halfy) and idk, I’m not surprised.
Hip hop overall never really has felt like this revolutionary platform people talk about. Even when ppl was “taking a stand on wax” on things, it always had this aura of hopping on the bandwagon. (With the inception of the overly political rappers that never was selling major numbers anyways. They never inviting niggas like the Coup or Dead Prez or Immortal Technique to “the proverbial table.” PE was chosen to be their industry’s token political rap boys. You can see by how much white people have whitewashed “Fight The Power” when in theory cracka you is the power to be fought against lmao)
Take the late 80s to the early 90s: black power was honestly seen as the trend. Hence why you see a lot of rappers with medallions and spitting about black themes but today they the biggest coons ever. (Looking at you Lord Jamar)
I got this rule called “WWICD?” (What would Ice Cube Do) that perfectly encompasses the different trends rap went through in the 90s. We (rightfully) killing Snoop Dogg for s*** Ice Cube was doing that only Common called out.
Dude went from “I’m just telling my story in the hood” to Nation of Islam black consciousness with a hint of turmeric and anti-semitism to “wassup my hoes and b****es lets party” in a 3 year timespan. (Idk if humans have this big of a personality switch in 3 years)
That nigga Cube was definitely throwing a dart at the “what is popping this year” table and deciding what he would rap about based on that.
And in a vacuum, he kinda corny for that. Cause it gives off a sense of you being wish washy and nobody really knows what you REALLY think. But in the grand scheme of things…a lot of rappers did that.
And this is why people are not gonna kill rick ross, nelly, and snoop anywhere close to how they did chrisette michelle (and to a lesser extent ye) because both them niggas didnt get the memo that they had to wait 8+ years before giving trump that cosign. Hell Big Sean just liked a donald trump quote on instagram. All these niggas capitalists frfr.
Shoutout to @iamiguel for calling out how much of a sham black capitalism is.
This mythical black dollar niggas love to talk about has never trickled down to the people despite the fact we have had constant black millionaires and billionaires.
Tl;dr: The mysterious spook who sat by the door was fiction for a reason.
money goes upstream, these niggas don't give a f*** about the common man
I think at its inception, a certain section of Hip-Hop felt like they had no choice but to be revolutionary thematically because they were seen as novelty acts / music that wouldn't last. But even then, it was pretty surface level stuff, and rarely linked to actual political or social change. Maybe 2Pac would've come close because he actually inserted himself into the activities of the Black Panther Party. but he also caught a rape case, so maybe he was the wrong guy for the job.
but yeah, most of rap is just niggas trying to get to a bag, especially because of how big the genre is now. Maybe when rap becomes a dead genre, people will want to lead a revolution. but I doubt it, because at that point, it'll just be old niggas rapping. Not young people with rebel energy & nothing to lose.
- Jan 23·2 repliesChoking
on an album called black ben carson?
and even the song isn’t explicit politically and just edgy (dumb take it’s both) he clearly was fine with using some sort of being a “leftist” musician in the cultural sphere with lines against 4chan and other racist crackers on vetern
eh
any Black man should be entitled to call out racism and C00ning without being typecast as a 'leftist' - OPJan 23tomorrow volverse
eh
any Black man should be entitled to call out racism and C00ning without being typecast as a 'leftist'Thank you!
- OPJan 23·1 replytomorrow volverse
money goes upstream, these niggas don't give a f*** about the common man
I think at its inception, a certain section of Hip-Hop felt like they had no choice but to be revolutionary thematically because they were seen as novelty acts / music that wouldn't last. But even then, it was pretty surface level stuff, and rarely linked to actual political or social change. Maybe 2Pac would've come close because he actually inserted himself into the activities of the Black Panther Party. but he also caught a rape case, so maybe he was the wrong guy for the job.
!https://youtu.be/nOTa1wQJVrMbut yeah, most of rap is just niggas trying to get to a bag, especially because of how big the genre is now. Maybe when rap becomes a dead genre, people will want to lead a revolution. but I doubt it, because at that point, it'll just be old niggas rapping. Not young people with rebel energy & nothing to lose.
oh we podding.
That rape case when you look into it is fugazy as hell and has so many inconsistencies. The one thing Pac was absolutely "guilty" of (and prolly why your original point of "might have been the wrong guy for the job" is sadly correct) is bro was not only volatile but also was not good at discernment.
If 90s Mike Tyson is telling you not to hang with certain individuals, I'd take that nigga's advice.
Who knew those same individuals would get him jammed up in a fugazy case
Jan 23
ineedabakerthe revolutionary aspects of hip hop were co-opted extremely early on
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