Not comparable since one of them died in the middle of their prime.

what does it even mean to be a lyricist

i hate what that word has become

you're talking to a Pac stan. That's why I can say that lol, that's not a diss.

He wasn't a lyricist in the technical sense. He was always a poet.

Big difference.

tell me more...

fam don't act obtuse lol.

He had his moments like If I Die 2nite, but c'mon Hennessy and enemies has become a trope because of how often he used it.

Yes!

how can you stan pac

but feel like he's not a lyricist

because he has used a phrase more than once

lol

wayne has said and the F is for a lot

Pac was never the punchline, metaphor, lyrical miracle type of rapper. He was a poet where he would just be vivid and paint a picture for you. That was always why the Biggie/Pac beef was so weird cause they're two different type of rappers. Biggie as a rapper had the better flow and punchlines.

Pac could just give it to you straight and hella descriptive.

Only a poet could write one of the greatest verses of all time ("I aint Mad At Cha 3rd verse" on the radio version.)

idgaf about your word play, rhyme schemes, words per minute and all that other nerd s***.

Are you saying that s*** to give me goosebumps on my arms

TALK

Better rapper yea but pac has way more substance

Fr

^ this.

I don't know why people get offended lol.

We agree. That's why I'm saying. He literally started as a poet lol.

Wayno not a Tupac fan so take that as you will. But if we just talking “technical rap proficiency” then I’m inclined to agree.

well said

but i don't get why we discount the more straight forward approach

you don't need to have metaphors and punchlines to be a lyricist imo

it's like saying a comedian isn't funny if he doesn't use literal punchlines

when we look back on who defined hip hop

are we picking pac or wayne?

I don't think anyone's discounting it. We're just acknowledging that that is a fact, he's technically not as proficient a rapper as others.

But I guess we "discount" it in general because well like I said earlier, if you just wanna be straight forward then "just do poetry cause we only wanna hear bars." (I'm not saying this is how I view the s***.)

Na not even close

Wayne never made me cry with one of his songs

i just feel like

when you hear the word "lyricism"

or "technical rapper"

it means backpack s***

which i get

but i don't think that should be the definition

are we gonna say wayne is a better rapper than Scarface too?

i guess what i'm saying is

bars aren't the only factor in technical skill

imo

technically....yeah.

But Scarface just like Pac know how to paint pictures.

But the thing about Lil Wayne that makes him exceptional is he could do both. Pray To The Lord is a beautiful song.