you don't think painting pictures is a technical skill?

I think all these s***s are skills lol.

I'm just saying when people say technical they're referring to double entendres, metaphors, similies, multi-syllabic rhyme schemes, etc.

Listen some of the BEST technical rappers be some of the most boring niggas to listen to. The best are the ones that know how to bring everything together.

“his charisma, flow, and creativity.”

All of this makes someone a good rapper tho. Eminem can put out some crazy good technically impressive verses but a lot of time he is saying nothing. I would rather hear clever punchlines than someone rhyming a bunch of syllables.

wayno’s podcast is coming together nicely

i'm all for doing away with the elitism that plagued mainstream hip-hop discourse in the 2000s and giving wayne his flowers, but it seems like mfs in online rap circles are flipping the script too much. we went from "if pac was still alive, lil wayne would work at mcdonald's" to "pac was never a great lyricist"

y'all are deluded

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and that's what i'm trying to fight against

we gotta find the balance

fr bro. the trend of heads rewriting history and tryna claim pac is not as great as his legacy would suggest gotta stop

This is incomparable since pac never got to finish his career imo

I might be biased but to me no rapper could ever be compared to Tupac mainly because tupac was more than just music. This man was a revolutionary. No rapper has had the same impact on the world the same way pac has. That alone speaks volume of his music.

I agree with this.

Lil Wayne is Hip Hop. Pac was bigger than Hip Hop.

I think of it like drake and Kendrick.

Drake is bigger and I love his music, but Kendrick is more important.

well said

he is

I still to this day don’t get the Pac hype. I can’t play a single one of his albums all the way through they all have so many skips. I don’t understand where the hype comes from, there’s so many others better including from the same time Biggie who I can play albums in full no skips.

What impact on the world did he have? Genuine question btw.

Y’all gave wayno 9 pages
Pathetic

Well...yes but no

That was my whole point. Read again.

Please tell me you're joking.

npr.org/2013/03/20/174839318/tupac-encouraged-the-arab-spring

laweekly.com/african-rebel-soldiers-and-their-eerie-obsession-with-tupac-shakur

timeline.com/tupac-shakur-tribute-murals-7f3e648347f3?gi=4851bb3f085

rollingstone.com/music/music-news/8-ways-tupac-shakur-changed-the-world-128421

savoirflair.com/culture/501446/social-impact-tupac-shakur

Not to mention almost every gangster rapper throughout the globe worships Pac.

I was talking about while alive. The impact of someone after death is never a fair comparison to any of the current living rappers. C’mon now.

Not even being a d***, but it’s natural for someone’s influence and impact to sky rocket after death. So comparing current living rappers impact to someone that has passed especially in Pac’s case is never going to be an even comparison, especially under the mythos of what he became after his death.

That's not a good argument because rappers die all the time B. But that doesn't mean that they're gonna have Pac's impact and reach.

But, while Pac was alive for his short time on Earth, he

-Grew Death Row as a label,
-Inspired Biggie's debut Ready To Die,
-Popularized the phrase "Thug Life"
-Helped started the "West Coast vs East Coast feud",
-Made tons of introspective music even in his hits like "Dear Mama", "Temptations" and "Keep Ya Head Up" while a lot of rap back then was grimy or full of cockiness
-Shot at off duty cops who were caught harrassing a Black man
-Created one of the biggest, most well known diss songs of all time

Remember, Pac was only 25 years old when he died yet he managed to accomplish a lot while juggling being a movie star and being in jail for months over an allegation.

Rappers die all the time and even Biggie's impact and reach worldwide can't compare to Pac's. So, clearly Pac had to be something special alive for him to have that impact after death.

All that stuff you mentioned while he was alive is not some overboard impactful thing over every other rapper sorry.