There’s nothing wrong with that though

Why is this “turning your back” sentiment only ever applied to r&b (and country) artists?

I didn’t bring race into it for controversy. If you took it that way that’s on you.

You in here fighting ghosts

Weeknd was always making pop music since House of Balloons, it was just “cool” to y’all. Now the pop music he makes is no longer cool to y’all.

His format never switched up either lol since the mixtapes (excluding Thursday and some of EOS) it was mainly pop songs with a few pure R&B songs on there. Starboy, BBTM, After Hours, and Dawn FM all follow that same formula.

Channel Orange was also pretty much a pop album as well.

why do white people get so angry whenever someone says anything about race

f***ing moron

Because it’s the easiest genre to break through then start doing completely different s***

I hear it in every genre lol

Kanye is an easy example when it came to 808s regarding Rap

Dark times forreal

Because they’re very cultural genres so some fans take it very personally when they see an artist “abandoning” it for a more pop sound or fanbase

Hope not an ovoxo reunion sounds more boring than watching paint dry

R&b didn’t claim them to begin with

It’s not. You could apply this to Post Malone who turned his back on hip hop.

I don’t see it as turning their backs

esp. not in franks case

Weeknd you could make that claim for sure especially post-BBTM/SB

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So they all sparked a flame, brought in a whole new gen of artists (Bryson, Party, Brent, etc) and then started making music that they wanted to make after gaining international fame

I don’t see what’s wrong w that

The all time low-point of pop music

MGK too

also the idea of genre is completely outdated

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A lot of it was RnB with a twist.

Franks always had popish sound n themes i agree, disagree with weeknd.

Part of the reason why the og og weeknd fans most of them were mad at kissland back in the day because of it now "being pop".

A lot of it was still rnb tho, & i say weeknd was still pretty much rnb overall until starboy with some pop elements/songs here n there.

Now he's onto some more disco & synthpop sounds. You dont have to sound like a 70s soul band or a 90s croon group to be rnb, imo.

Pop elements existed in there music to an extent, but to day it was mostly pop back then is dishonest imo. It wasnt pop sounding nor pop in terms of the sound being popular of that early era. Frank moreso yes, but weeknd i disagree almost fully.

Artists don’t owe us s***

No it isnt lol.

Genre is just a way to catagorize similar sounding sounds & themes to discuss, discover & tangible-ise music.

Very pretentious thought without any serious weight imo.

stupid thread

Lame how whenever niggas try to express how they feel niggas invalidate it by saying we bringing up race for no reason

Many of the songs on HOB had no structure at all and rarely any pop elements besides some samples. Calling that s*** pop music is actually just flat out wrong.