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4y

You can obviously bring up Elliott's art and mention that he touched up a lot on anxiety, depression, d*** addiction, moving to another city and reflect those to his fate. I'm not totally ruling out that he killed himself, there's still a high chance that he did, it's just natural to me that I would be suspicious after reading his case and assume foul play

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noo not you just like in general I guess. Like not even just deaths by suicide.

Like for example after the Dr Dre thing that just happened today (obviously he didn't die but it still shows what I mean) the first thing some people did was get mad at his wife. Or like with Mac Miller people attacked Ariana Grande.

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is there a doc about elliott smith death? wanna look more into it again been a minute

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That thread was so embarrassing, blaming the partner before all the details come out

You are totally right though it's a tired trend with people that obsessive over these celebrities and think they know the situation

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look at trendy the divorce rumor kimye s*** went, didn’t read thru it but you can only imagine the horrible s*** ppl already said towards kim

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Yeah I was in that thread for a bit and it was a mess, but I expected it. These divorce threads happen a lot even dating back on KTT1 and people always call Kim these disgusting names and accusations

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I like this

I still haven't listened to Pinkerton

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People say it influenced a lot of midwest emo bands, do you like Blue?

Btw the Pink B-Side songs are dope, worse than the album tho (which is a certified classic) so definitely check them and the album out

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Pinkerton did? I will probably like it then.

I like Blue.

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pinkerton is by far the most crucial album to the core of the emo scene and its seeds

ithaka

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pinkerton is by far the most crucial album to the core of the emo scene and its seeds

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oh

More than like Diary and stuff?

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im not gonna do d*** measurements contest over that bc i didn’t dive deep in emo like that to fact check what each album brought to the game

but uh say you like saves the day for example?

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I know the name but I'm not very familiar w/ their music

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oh

More than like Diary and stuff?

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I think bands that weren't tryna make emo being influential to the midwest/math stuff like Slint, Drive like Jehu, early Unwound and early Weezer (Pinkerton and a little Blue). Sunny Day Real Estate is most influential I say to the midwest scene, besides maybe Cap'n Jazz.

Correct me if I'm wrong @ anyone, but Sunny Day was already influenced by early emocore stuff from the 80s like Rites of Spring, Embrace, Moss Icon and tied it with a 90s alt rock context. Cult albums like Pinkerton, Fake Train, Spiderland, Yank Crime weren't from my understanding

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A few albums are more crucial but it's up there

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I think bands that weren't tryna make emo being influential to the midwest/math stuff like Slint, Drive like Jehu, early Unwound and early Weezer (Pinkerton and a little Blue). Sunny Day Real Estate is most influential I say to the midwest scene, besides maybe Cap'n Jazz.

Correct me if I'm wrong @ anyone, but Sunny Day was already influenced by early emocore stuff from the 80s like Rites of Spring, Embrace, Moss Icon and tied it with a 90s alt rock context. Cult albums like Pinkerton, Fake Train, Spiderland, Yank Crime weren't from my understanding

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cant have a post that mentions unwound without tagging @Unwound sorry just basic rules

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you are right but I thought he meant like the most influential to the midwest emo stuff or like the more emo pop stuff from the 2000s

like yeah Sunny Day Real Estate were influenced by the 80s stuff but I'd say they were more influential to the bands that came after them if that makes sense