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  • Nov 24

    jeffpearce.medium.com/ethiopia-the-wests-diplomats-meet-in-secret-to-decide-how-to-help-the-tplf-cb87f2d30777

    The West’s Horn of Africa experts have been meeting with a TPLF leader and TPLF/OLF supporters in secret, even as its governments claim to be impartial — TPLF’s Berhane Gebre-Christos speaks as TPLF member, proposed head of “transitional government” (limo/Uber drivers) and Washington-based Ethio-American diaspora.
    Donald Yamamoto, recently the U.S. Ambassador to Somalia who just retired this year, to TPLF official Berhane Gebre-Christos:

    “Abiy is not listening… Obasanjo has not been extraordinary helpful or very active, and so are there any other opportunities that you see?”
    Vicki Huddleston, former U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for African Affairs and US Assistant Secretary of State for Africa to Berhane Gebre-Christos:

    “I couldn’t agree more that you know, Abiy should step down, there should be an all-inclusive transition government.”

    Former ambassadors and current diplomats for the United States, Britain and EU had a Zoom meeting this past Sunday with an official for the TPLF in what amounts to a green light from the West for the terrorist group’s attempts to overthrow the democratically elected Ethiopian government. And there’s evidence to prove it: a phone-cam video of the two-hour meeting.

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    Scratchin Mamba

    https://jeffpearce.medium.com/ethiopia-the-wests-diplomats-meet-in-secret-to-decide-how-to-help-the-tplf-cb87f2d30777

    The West’s Horn of Africa experts have been meeting with a TPLF leader and TPLF/OLF supporters in secret, even as its governments claim to be impartial — TPLF’s Berhane Gebre-Christos speaks as TPLF member, proposed head of “transitional government” (limo/Uber drivers) and Washington-based Ethio-American diaspora.
    Donald Yamamoto, recently the U.S. Ambassador to Somalia who just retired this year, to TPLF official Berhane Gebre-Christos:

    “Abiy is not listening… Obasanjo has not been extraordinary helpful or very active, and so are there any other opportunities that you see?”
    Vicki Huddleston, former U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for African Affairs and US Assistant Secretary of State for Africa to Berhane Gebre-Christos:

    “I couldn’t agree more that you know, Abiy should step down, there should be an all-inclusive transition government.”

    Former ambassadors and current diplomats for the United States, Britain and EU had a Zoom meeting this past Sunday with an official for the TPLF in what amounts to a green light from the West for the terrorist group’s attempts to overthrow the democratically elected Ethiopian government. And there’s evidence to prove it: a phone-cam video of the two-hour meeting.

    !https://youtu.be/e4A8Ot5zpgg

    it's crazy how the west literally has no motive half the time in the modern era for allowing chaos in africa and literally just does it for the hell of it to f*** with them out of pure spite/cruelty. this is probably one of the most egregious acts by the west in africa since what they did in mali and somalia. literally a government run by insane sociopathic narcissists

    also not to distract from how serious this is but can we just appreciate the absurdity of "had a Zoom meeting this past Sunday" like there's so many layers to that, imagine caring so little about millions of people and the livelihood of an entire region and ethnic groups you have a video conference on corporate approved (tm) software to decide the fate of millions if it wasn't so insane and cruel it'd be hilarious.

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    why

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    spacecadet drose

    why

    US wants Ethiopia to be destabilized to prevent them from building their dam, that's the only reason they would want to support the TPLF.

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    Mango

    Try reading the article lol, or even watching the actual zoom meeting I linked in op

  • Nov 24

    F*** THIS S***
    MEDDLING ASS MFs NEVER QUIT

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    krishna bound

    it's crazy how the west literally has no motive half the time in the modern era for allowing chaos in africa and literally just does it for the hell of it to f*** with them out of pure spite/cruelty. this is probably one of the most egregious acts by the west in africa since what they did in mali and somalia. literally a government run by insane sociopathic narcissists

    also not to distract from how serious this is but can we just appreciate the absurdity of "had a Zoom meeting this past Sunday" like there's so many layers to that, imagine caring so little about millions of people and the livelihood of an entire region and ethnic groups you have a video conference on corporate approved (tm) software to decide the fate of millions if it wasn't so insane and cruel it'd be hilarious.

    I mean they do have a motive though, but I agree it's ridiculous, they're pushing for literal uber drivers to take power lol

    And the West still has the nerve to talk about incompetent and corrupt leaders in Africa being the main reason for poverty

  • Scratchin Mamba

    I mean they do have a motive though, but I agree it's ridiculous, they're pushing for literal uber drivers to take power lol

    And the West still has the nerve to talk about incompetent and corrupt leaders in Africa being the main reason for poverty

    It's crazy how insignificant it is though. Like it's not a case where there's even that significant of geopolitical ramifications against the US, it's literally just like "hell no can't let an African country not be a vassal state"

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    Scratchin Mamba

    Try reading the article lol, or even watching the actual zoom meeting I linked in op

    I did? Weird not to mention the actual mechanism for regime change. These "human rights" mongering diplomats are as dishonest as the article says. They are the PR department for the actual military wing that will orchestrate whatever actions are taken.

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    Scratchin Mamba

    US wants Ethiopia to be destabilized to prevent them from building their dam, that's the only reason they would want to support the TPLF.

    tbh i have no idea of ethiopian relations
    TPLF bad? seems like they're ethonationalist
    give me the rundown

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    Scratchin Mamba

    US wants Ethiopia to be destabilized to prevent them from building their dam, that's the only reason they would want to support the TPLF.

    what dam

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    Also, them citing Ethiopia as a genocidal regime would raise alarming questions about how the US assisted them in constructing a surveillance state

    In exchange for local knowledge and an advantageous location, the NSA provided the East African nation with technology and training integral to electronic surveillance. “Ethiopia’s position provides the partnership unique access to the targets,” a commander of the U.S. spying operation wrote in a classified 2005 report. (The report is one of 294 internal NSA newsletters released today by The Intercept.)

    “The Ethiopian government uses surveillance not only to fight terrorism and crime, but as a key tactic in its abusive efforts to silence dissenting voices in-country,” says Felix Horne, a senior researcher for Human Rights Watch. “Essentially anyone that opposes or expresses dissent against the government is considered to be an ‘anti-peace element’ or a ‘terrorist.’

    theintercept.com/2017/09/13/nsa-ethiopia-surveillance-human-rights

  • spacecadet drose

    what dam

    reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-dam-usa/u-s-to-de-link-ethiopian-aid-pause-from-dam-policy-idUSKBN2AK08O

    this is the best context for it in terms of a quick read

  • Nov 24
    Mango

    I did? Weird not to mention the actual mechanism for regime change. These "human rights" mongering diplomats are as dishonest as the article says. They are the PR department for the actual military wing that will orchestrate whatever actions are taken.

    Nvm thought u were trying to say smth else my bad lol

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    Mango

    Also, them citing Ethiopia as a genocidal regime would raise alarming questions about how the US assisted them in constructing a surveillance state

    In exchange for local knowledge and an advantageous location, the NSA provided the East African nation with technology and training integral to electronic surveillance. “Ethiopia’s position provides the partnership unique access to the targets,” a commander of the U.S. spying operation wrote in a classified 2005 report. (The report is one of 294 internal NSA newsletters released today by The Intercept.)

    “The Ethiopian government uses surveillance not only to fight terrorism and crime, but as a key tactic in its abusive efforts to silence dissenting voices in-country,” says Felix Horne, a senior researcher for Human Rights Watch. “Essentially anyone that opposes or expresses dissent against the government is considered to be an ‘anti-peace element’ or a ‘terrorist.’

    https://theintercept.com/2017/09/13/nsa-ethiopia-surveillance-human-rights/

    the US actively encouraged human rights violations in ethiopia basically for multiple decades in exchange for ethiopia allowing the US to violate human rights in the "war on terror" basically

  • krishna bound

    the US actively encouraged human rights violations in ethiopia basically for multiple decades in exchange for ethiopia allowing the US to violate human rights in the "war on terror" basically

    The US will allow, encourage, and assist whatever right up until the point it becomes convenient to denounce it and use it as a pretext for regime change. Usual s***.

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    spacecadet drose

    tbh i have no idea of ethiopian relations
    TPLF bad? seems like they're ethonationalist
    give me the rundown

    TPLF came to power after overthrowing the Soviet-allied Derg (with US support back then as well) in 1991 and stayed in power for 27 years. They've been US lapdogs ever since, with Obama praising it as a "democracy" even though they had 100% of the seats lol.

    They're a Tigrayan ​ethnonationalist party that ruled over the country for 30 years despite being only 6% of the country's population.

    They were overthrown by a broad multi-ethnic coalition that sought to end their dictatorship and turn Ethiopia into a liberal democracy. Biggest reasons besides ending Tigrayan dominance was to put an end to the system of ethnic federalism and the clause that allowed for regions to secede whenever they wanted to.

    In late 2020, the Ethiopian elections were postponed to the summer of 2021. The Tigrayan region was the only one that still went ahead with their regional elections in 2020.

    Then finally in november 2020 the TPLF attacked an Ethiopian military base, which led to the current civil war.

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    Mango

    Also, them citing Ethiopia as a genocidal regime would raise alarming questions about how the US assisted them in constructing a surveillance state

    In exchange for local knowledge and an advantageous location, the NSA provided the East African nation with technology and training integral to electronic surveillance. “Ethiopia’s position provides the partnership unique access to the targets,” a commander of the U.S. spying operation wrote in a classified 2005 report. (The report is one of 294 internal NSA newsletters released today by The Intercept.)

    “The Ethiopian government uses surveillance not only to fight terrorism and crime, but as a key tactic in its abusive efforts to silence dissenting voices in-country,” says Felix Horne, a senior researcher for Human Rights Watch. “Essentially anyone that opposes or expresses dissent against the government is considered to be an ‘anti-peace element’ or a ‘terrorist.’

    https://theintercept.com/2017/09/13/nsa-ethiopia-surveillance-human-rights/

    This was during the TPLF era but still true regardless

  • Nov 25
    Scratchin Mamba

    This was during the TPLF era but still true regardless

    That's the most recent documentation but any capacity can be weaponized and the purposeful destabilization of the continent guarantees it changes hands.

  • This video is crazy. They are plotting on how to support the TPLF while feigning neutrality to the world. It is abundantly clear that the West wants Tigray lackeys to win even if it completely escalates the war.

    The funny thing is Abiy was a neoliberal guy too, but even his slight pro-China support was reason enough for the West to completely drop him.

    Let's see if TPLF can pull anything off

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    Scratchin Mamba

    US wants Ethiopia to be destabilized to prevent them from building their dam, that's the only reason they would want to support the TPLF.

    I thought the dam was already built?

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    Christos

    I thought the dam was already built?

    Been built technically but it's not in full use yet they're filling the resevoirs which takes up to 7 years from now

  • Nov 25
  • Such an apocalypse. It's basically an ethnic war under a pretense of the state vs. the rebels. Unfortunately, it has a genocidal precedent in Africa, especially in the last 30 years.

    Mass atrocities allegedly committed by both sides on civilians, including starvation and gang rape.

    There really is no future.

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