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  • Nov 25
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    TPLF came to power after overthrowing the Soviet-allied Derg (with US support back then as well) in 1991 and stayed in power for 27 years. They've been US lapdogs ever since, with Obama praising it as a "democracy" even though they had 100% of the seats lol.

    They're a Tigrayan ​ethnonationalist party that ruled over the country for 30 years despite being only 6% of the country's population.

    They were overthrown by a broad multi-ethnic coalition that sought to end their dictatorship and turn Ethiopia into a liberal democracy. Biggest reasons besides ending Tigrayan dominance was to put an end to the system of ethnic federalism and the clause that allowed for regions to secede whenever they wanted to.

    In late 2020, the Ethiopian elections were postponed to the summer of 2021. The Tigrayan region was the only one that still went ahead with their regional elections in 2020.

    Then finally in november 2020 the TPLF attacked an Ethiopian military base, which led to the current civil war.

    so why did tplf attack the Ethiopian military base

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    so why did tplf attack the Ethiopian military base

    They just want their ethnic oligarchy back pretty much

  • U.S. Special Envoy for the Horn of Africa Jeffrey Feltman told reporters on Tuesday that he has seen "nascent progress" between the two sides, but fears it might not last.

    “There is some nascent progress in trying to get the parties to move from a military confrontation to a negotiating process," he said, "but what concerns us is that this fragile progress risks being outpaced by the alarming developments on the ground that threaten Ethiopia’s overall stability and unity.”

  • Nov 25
    krishna bound

    it's crazy how the west literally has no motive half the time in the modern era for allowing chaos in africa and literally just does it for the hell of it to f*** with them out of pure spite/cruelty. this is probably one of the most egregious acts by the west in africa since what they did in mali and somalia. literally a government run by insane sociopathic narcissists

    also not to distract from how serious this is but can we just appreciate the absurdity of "had a Zoom meeting this past Sunday" like there's so many layers to that, imagine caring so little about millions of people and the livelihood of an entire region and ethnic groups you have a video conference on corporate approved (tm) software to decide the fate of millions if it wasn't so insane and cruel it'd be hilarious.

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    bbc.com/news/world-africa-59393463

    "The prime minister has sought to portray his country as a victim, not just of Tigrayan aggression, but of a vast international conspiracy designed to weaken Ethiopia and punish it for, allegedly, challenging Western colonial interests on the continent.

    Western media are portrayed as enthusiastic backers of that conspiracy theory - one which appears to have gained widespread credibility in a country struggling to explain how the rebel group could have made such startling headway."

    Lol

  • Scratchin Mamba

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-59393463

    "The prime minister has sought to portray his country as a victim, not just of Tigrayan aggression, but of a vast international conspiracy designed to weaken Ethiopia and punish it for, allegedly, challenging Western colonial interests on the continent.

    Western media are portrayed as enthusiastic backers of that conspiracy theory - one which appears to have gained widespread credibility in a country struggling to explain how the rebel group could have made such startling headway."

    Lol

    Libs and naming errythang a conspiracy theory go together like milk and honey

  • They really about to let Ethopia enter a f***ing civil war for whatever bullshit reason that benefits them.

    I just wish African nations realize "The West" are not and will never be their allies.

  • Blatant imperialism.

  • Nov 25
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    I don't know much but

    -the West has an interest in ethiopia not building the dam and harming Egypt

    -the ethiopian government is committing a genocide in tigray

    -the tplf are not good themselves

    Seems like another case of powers treating every actor as a chess pawn

  • Nov 25
    TragedyBerlusconi

    I don't know much but

    -the West has an interest in ethiopia not building the dam and harming Egypt

    -the ethiopian government is committing a genocide in tigray

    -the tplf are not good themselves

    Seems like another case of powers treating every actor as a chess pawn

    There is no genocide, like you said you don't know much

  • Nov 25

    And there are no powers using the Ethiopian government as a pawn, Abiy coming to power was an internal thing with no foreign involvement.

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    Western media has really been portraying this war like it's only been going on in Tigray, and as if the Ethiopian government is the aggressor.

    Every Ethiopian knows about the Mai Kadra massacre, every Ethiopian knows about the TPLF starting the conflict with the Northern command attacks, every Ethiopian knows the TPLF has looted even USAID food supplies. Yet the narrative in Western media has been the complete opposite. I can assure you nobody in the West posting "WHAT'S GOING ON IN ETHIOPIA" infographics knows about these things.

    Obviously there is an agenda, as this leak has proved beyond any doubt now, but a lot of it also has to do with Western arrogance. Reporters simply do not care to accurately report on this conflict as they would with other conflicts. Parachute journalism by culturally and politically ignorant Western journalists who have don't even know how to pronounce "Tigray" lol.

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    @Ronin you peeped?

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    sputniknews.com/20211125/watch-us-european-diplomats-secretly-plan-ethiopian-transition-government-with-tplf-leader-1091001180.html

    "According to investigative journalist Jeff Pearce, the video was shot on a phone camera by an unnamed participant in the meeting and given to him. The source said the meeting was held under the auspices of the Peace and Development Center International, which they described as “TPLF and OLF-run masquerading as NGO,” referring to the TPLF-allied Oromo Liberation Front.

    On the center’s website, it lists among its partners and donors the US Agency for International Development (USAID), which is part of the US State Department, and the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a well-known and self-admitted CIA front, both of which have astroturfed opposition parties and funneled funds to pro-US groups from Hong Kong to Nicaragua and beyond."

    NED & USAID, that's really all you need to know.

  • Nov 25
  • Scratchin Mamba

    @Ronin you peeped?

    Reading now

  • Nov 25
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    Scratchin Mamba

    @Ronin you peeped?

    By the way, am I correct in thinking that if the government is overthrown, there would then immediately be another civil war, as the TPLF more or less want to usurp the government whereas the OLA want independence?

  • Nov 25
    Ronin

    By the way, am I correct in thinking that if the government is overthrown, there would then immediately be another civil war, as the TPLF more or less want to usurp the government whereas the OLA want independence?

    That's very likely tbh, unless the TPLF decides to settle for secession.

  • Nov 25
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    Scratchin Mamba

    US wants Ethiopia to be destabilized to prevent them from building their dam, that's the only reason they would want to support the TPLF.

    What’s the footnotes here bro? Is this related to Ethiopia’s feud with Egypt?

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    ALPHABAE

    What’s the footnotes here bro? Is this related to Ethiopia’s feud with Egypt?

    He knows more than me, but it seems pretty likely to me that one of the main reasons for the West to approve of the TPLF is the tension between Ethiopia and Egypt (Egypt being one of the main US allies in Africa and the Middle East)

    Unless you mean the conflict as a whole, in which case I don’t think Egypt or the West actively fomented rebellion

  • Nov 25
    Scratchin Mamba
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    TPLF came to power after overthrowing the Soviet-allied Derg (with US support back then as well) in 1991 and stayed in power for 27 years. They've been US lapdogs ever since, with Obama praising it as a "democracy" even though they had 100% of the seats lol.

    They're a Tigrayan ​ethnonationalist party that ruled over the country for 30 years despite being only 6% of the country's population.

    They were overthrown by a broad multi-ethnic coalition that sought to end their dictatorship and turn Ethiopia into a liberal democracy. Biggest reasons besides ending Tigrayan dominance was to put an end to the system of ethnic federalism and the clause that allowed for regions to secede whenever they wanted to.

    In late 2020, the Ethiopian elections were postponed to the summer of 2021. The Tigrayan region was the only one that still went ahead with their regional elections in 2020.

    Then finally in november 2020 the TPLF attacked an Ethiopian military base, which led to the current civil war.

    It's related to so many things tbh lol, even going back to the first Ethiopian-Italo war in the 19th century. But these are the most important things @alphabear

  • Nov 25
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    I don't know much but

    -the West has an interest in ethiopia not building the dam and harming Egypt

    -the ethiopian government is committing a genocide in tigray

    -the tplf are not good themselves

    Seems like another case of powers treating every actor as a chess pawn

    Yeah, f*** Ethiopians for daring to develop some kind of independence. How dare they.

  • Nov 25
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    BnBallinToo

    Yeah, f*** Ethiopians for daring to develop some kind of independence. How dare they.

    He'll defend any form of imperialism, even if by his own admission he doesn't know s*** about the situation lol

  • BnBallinToo

    Yeah, f*** Ethiopians for daring to develop some kind of independence. How dare they.

    I in no way supported that, don't look at me, im just saying what is in the wests interests. I don't f*** with that intervention at all

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