The Darkest Angel

3y

And it's always been a huge problem on ktt it's basically a staple.

There's real criticism about Drake but these niggas don't even really listen so they keep it vague too. His music is "soulless" "uninspired" or "generic" but they don't expand past that. They been hearing the same Drake album for years but can't give examples or be specific about songs.

That's why everyone could see through this because their words are so shallow. Same niggas every release for years at this point, they got to look in the mirror and realize the real root of the problem.

Queenbey

3y

I low key didn’t want the thread to go into drake section because I knew his stans would start acting up

The Darkest Angel

3y

"I wanted a one sided discussion and now I'm going to get different opinions"

NWTS MICK

3y

Bro they’re just trying to control the narrative. If they actually listened, they wouldn’t be saying it’s uninspired. He sounds more inspired on this than anything since NWTS.

This is also some of his best production but they didn’t listen so they wouldn’t know

ISaidWhatUpYeezus

3y

My opinion is wrong because I don’t ride Drakes cock and that’s okay.

The Darkest Angel

3y

No way op heard the album like No Friends In The Industry or Papi's Home and came here to say "his boring delivery" as if that's not the biggest cap of the year

NWTS MICK

3y

ISaidWhatUpYeezus

ISaidWhatUpYeezus

3y

Damn you know me so well. Because I love all Kanye’s projects and defend every thing he’s done. Man how you know?

NWTS MICK

3y

ISaidWhatUpYeezus

ISaidWhatUpYeezus

3y

I said s*** I’m chillin

ryuH

3y

My biggest criticism of CLB at this point is it doesn’t seem to explore the “Lover Boy” theme in a way that’s distinguishable from his other albums. He also fails to address the 2 year delay and doesn’t seem to dive into what was going on in his life during that period at all. I think those were big missed opportunities.

Other than that the album is good music top to bottom. It’s not very innovative and it wasn’t made to play as a “cohesive body of work” but I’m starting to realize we are judging him by standards from a bygone era tbh.

20 years ago going to the store and buying an album was the only way you were hearing a bunch of songs from an artist at once and there were also limits to how much music you could fit on a CD which is why there were double albums etc. Those limitations are what made it so meritable for an artist to be able to give fans something special within confines of the technology of the time.

In the streaming era tho none of those restrictions exist and so values are quickly changing. Albums are getting longer simply because they can and music is being released more frequently because of the ease of access so less time is being put into crafting an album that is designed to play cohesively front to back and instead artist want to just give there fans as much content as possible and stay competitive in the marketplace. It just kinda is what it is. There is still a niche market that wants to hear more traditional albums (shorter, more focused, theme based) but that’s not Drake’s target audience.

I always expected Drake to have that old school mentality for some reason but it’s obvious he’s changed with the times so it is what it is. If he makes a short “cohesive” album at this point in his career it would be a novelty project for him.

My biggest wish for him is that his subject matter would evolve.

The Darkest Angel

3y

And it's always been a huge problem on ktt it's basically a staple.

There's real criticism about Drake but these niggas don't even really listen so they keep it vague too. His music is "soulless" "uninspired" or "generic" but they don't expand past that. They been hearing the same Drake album for years but can't give examples or be specific about songs.

That's why everyone could see through this because their words are so shallow. Same niggas every release for years at this point, they got to look in the mirror and realize the real root of the problem.

Klaus

3y

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• His flow on songs aren't as... I don't even know what's the word for it but he doesn't flow as effortlessly and continuously as he used to. Like for example the last verse on 10 Bands or first verse of Furthest Thing. Now He does this stupid thing now where he pauses in his verses multiple times and really kills the momentum and makes it awkward.
• He doesn't have nearly as good melodies or hooks anymore.
• Sounds bored on almost every single track nowadays. He used to rap and sing with so much passion, hunger and charisma. He sounds so lifeless now.
• Uses autotune way too much now. I miss when he'd have beautiful singing songs with well written lyrics. Like compare songs like HOWGH, Feel No Ways, Now & Forever, Marvins Room, Shot For Me, Doing It Wrong, Days In The East, Girls Love Beyonce or My Side to songs like Peak, Finesse, After Dark, Pipe Down, In The Bible, Girls Want Girls or F***ing Fans. Now his singing is autotuned messes and the lyrics have gotten either not nearly as good or pretty corny.
• Subject matter never changing or evolving is probably the worst offense. I don't need him to completely switch up and like never rap about the things he usually raps about but there needs to be at least SOME songs that break the mold and showcase his creativity. It would be nice but I'm not even saying he has to rap about politics or world issues or anything like that but my god rap about ANYTHING other than your stripper/ig model flings/girlfriends, love for your boys, your mom being sick, the fact that you on top and the cons that come with it, your opps, betrayal, the toll of fame, etc.
• Beats have been dry to me for the most part. It's super weird because it's not like they are bad but they always feel like they are missing something to make them kick. Like the difference between Tuscan Leather and Champagne Poetry. His albums used to have such beautiful production and now they sound as lifeless as him.
• His song structuring used to be way more elaborate and unique. Old Drake would have never had a 2 minute intro like Survival or stop at 1 verse on a song like Papi's Home. He never used to miss a songs potential. Like imagine if Come Thru ain't have that outro or 10 Bands stopped at those 2 short verses or if Days In the East and Marvins Room ain't have those last rap/sung verses where he spazzed. Most of his songs now feel like they missing another part to them.
• He keeps rapping with the same old people like Future & Migos or the new style niggas like Lil Baby, Gunna and Durk and they usually don't bring out the best in him at all. It's getting hella boring I wish he'd switch up and do more songs with rappers that push him like Freddie Gibbs, JID, Tyler, Benny, etc. Wish he'd collab with more female artists too like Kehlani, Jhene, Summer, Doja, Rico Nasty, Meg, etc.
• He doesn't care about making actual albums anymore. Every project after IYRTITL feel like playlists and gives the excuse that he needs to give all different types of songs on one project when he really doesn't. He's shown multiple times he's willing to release loosies, EPs, and mixtapes. He has multiple mediums to spread out the different types of songs on.

thewb39

3y

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The passive aggressive energy in posts like this is so disturbing. All I read is people projecting onto Drake and saying he's the real problem when it's really them. Y'all never have this much criticism and energy for other artists who literally repeat the same themes in their albums. That's how I know this is hella sus and biased.

Queenbey

3y

Also I’d just like to add his fans that won’t be honest with him

wethesoldiers

3y

I think it's more because everyone knows what Drake's capable of, I truly believe he's capable of so much more than what he put out on CLB

The Darkest Angel

3y

Nothing, he's evolved and still making classics this far into his career I can't hate that

wethesoldiers

3y

I think it's more because everyone knows what Drake's capable of, I truly believe he's capable of so much more than what he put out on CLB