Niggas really think that society on a masd scale will "work together for the common good" lmao
Humans are inherently selfish lmao. No ones gonna work without some immediate reward
One issue i took with saying this is that capitalism inherently perpetrates class struggle, therefore making people selfish also by desperation. That's like a "the abused becomes the abuser" kinda thing, you gotta join the f***ed up system to survive because otherwise you won't have enough money to keep up with having to pay for everything and having all types of debt
Society wouldn't even have to voluntarily 'work together for the common good' as we'd think of it how it'd be today if their material needs were met,
this isn't even mentioning the culture of wealth hoarding which is a whole other thing I don't wanna break down rn
Yea but I’m not arguing for the abolishment of private property which in turn abolish the existence of this very website as it stands
bro what even.
It’s always the mighty CIA
And still, it doesn’t change the fact that everything was done according to Marx and Engels
trust me those weirdos were not communist
He laughed at me saying "Its never worked" so i asked him to tell me when its worked
Its not missing the point lmao im asking him a question
And if you look at a history book youll know what the answer is which is why every internet communist gets stumped by that question or default to the "(Communist country) didnt do it right!!"
You ought to realize that that question is also a default, basic, bad faith question because you won't listen to the nuances of how things are much different now in the 21st century as well as the fact that authoritarian governments in the past isn't a reason to defy the need to meet peoples material needs and allow them more power in their own workplace instead of being wage slaves
Not to mention that I do not consider what's happening in the United States a success. We can get into how the United States is problematic but I feel like you should already know by now
History book doesn't emphasize the problems over what they think good obedient young people should think, it's not going to prime you to challenge the issues because otherwise the power structure would be overturned
yeah, it would be funded and treated as an essential public good lol
So KTT2 would cease to exist
Like literally S would lose control of it and all the Drake stans who massively outdo the Ye stand in numbers would flip the site on its head...democratically of course
bro what even.
I mean that is the entire “lol how can you communist but use twitter at the same time” meme no?
I mean that is the entire “lol how can you communist but use twitter at the same time” meme no?
its literally like a shared platform everyone can use if they have access to a computer, which you can go to a PUBLIC library (socialist) and get on
u don't have to pay to get on it, its not as good of an example as others
@kollaps u can make a free account and have access to the means of the tweet fam don't worry about twitter
which parts of marx and engels?
Town/country contradiction - solved
Land is public, in hands of communes
Shift from military to citizen force
Private property, nuclear family, commodity trade, money, religion, classes - abolished
However... Data selling and all that s*** and a government that's in cohorts with the corporation that do it is f***ed and is an ethical issue that shouldn't stop being raised
@OP u snapped with this thread even if it was unintentional it was interesting albeit frustrating
Inb4 another "WhEn HaS cOmMuNiSm EvEr WoRkEd?" while disregarding the effects of colonialism and staging of coups and wealth inequality and abuse under capitalism not to mention having the most murderous military meanwhile not even able to take care of veterans when they come home
All these values a lot of people 'stand for' in the U.S. , they are absolute CAP
They're f***ing lying to you to "look good." Because if they cared, they'd observe and realize things are f***ed up and need to be changed and spoken up about.
And don't get me wrong, even though I am angry and frustrated with a lot of things and people,
I still think healthcare, food, shelter, water, education, healthcare should be provided to you, bottom line. Even if you wouldn't want that for your current self if you were a different person with the same mindset
@OP u snapped with this thread even if it was unintentional it was interesting albeit frustrating
Inb4 another "WhEn HaS cOmMuNiSm EvEr WoRkEd?" while disregarding the effects of colonialism and staging of coups and wealth inequality and abuse under capitalism not to mention having the most murderous military meanwhile not even able to take care of veterans when they come home
All these values a lot of people 'stand for' in the U.S. , they are absolute CAP
They're f***ing lying to you to "look good." Because if they cared, they'd observe and realize things are f***ed up and need to be changed and spoken up about.
More whataboutism but niggas still cant say when Communism has ever worked
Niggas can never just answer the question
More whataboutism but niggas still cant say when Communism has ever worked
Niggas can never just answer the question
theres never been a communist society so there you go
theres never been a communist society so there you go
Like clockwork
So the USSR didnt exist
Cuba doesnt exist
China doesnt exist
right?
Like clockwork
So the USSR didnt exist
Cuba doesnt exist
China doesnt exist
right?
those aren't communist societies
communism - classless, moneyless society
those aren't communist societies
communism - classless, moneyless society
Like clockwork
So the USSR didnt exist
Cuba doesnt exist
China doesnt exist
right?
communism wouldn't be the only descriptor of a society, it's just one aspect of it, just as all those countries u mentioned have different ways of running their society, just like nobodies been 100% capitalist because it doesn't account for/take care of everyone
what even is this trying to say lol u got nothing else to say so u posting
This is the exact same s*** I started doing when kollider posted his 20th post about PS5s ... started posting random s***
yall stay rehashing the same stale points without any imagination or vision or hope for a better future- just acceptance of an abusive and unethical system lol couldn't be me,
I'm out this bish
That's not true. A public place would not bring together so many different people with different views and from different cultures.
If you are really about it, you have to accept many of the aspects of life in which we live now would not be in as we know them without capitalism. The Internet would not work as we know it without capitalism and funding from private companies.