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    Aug 20, 2021
    Buckleys Angel

    This is why I laugh when people try to clown “white culture”. It’s literally like 20 distinct cultures that were brought here by immigrants within the last 100 years or so.

    they are clowning American culture...

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    Birdie

    Is it the typical 2+ generation mix of Italian/irish/anglo? In addition to whoever is fair skin and raised in America?

    I ask this because

    Arabs are considered ‘white’
    North Africans can also be considered ‘white’
    Persians are ‘white’
    And many non-English speaking central Asians are also white
    Also what about the fair skin Latinos and Hispanics that have more Spaniard blood in them than anything else

    Like these groups all have a diversity in skin tone but for the ones which are fair skin they seem to automatically be assimilated into the white people of America if they live here.

    Their cultures are completely different but some how the way they’re viewed by others seems to negate that. I’ve noticed being a fair skin Arab I’m treated differently once I reveal I speak Arabic fluently and seem closer to my roots than people typically think.

    Europeans and Asians — does this dynamic seem common in your countries of residence too?

    You ain’t brown you white unless you middle eastern or some s***

  • Aug 20, 2021
    sace

    It’s not a singular thing but it’s a wide variety of different lineages in family of indo-european descent

    Basques and Finns aren't white according to this definition

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    there's different kinds of white
    and to me at least and i assume a lot of others its "anglo saxon white WHITE" & "spicy white"

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    MM6 Moka

    You ain’t brown you white unless you middle eastern or some s***

    That’s where it gets confusing because I pass as white to other people until I speak Arabic and say I’m a Muslim

    I’ve hung out with Arab friends who are darker and people will call me the white boy if they’re black/hispanic

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    goddess

    there's different kinds of white
    and to me at least and i assume a lot of others its "anglo saxon white WHITE" & "spicy white"

    Spicy white is a good term

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    Buckleys Angel

    This is why I laugh when people try to clown “white culture”. It’s literally like 20 distinct cultures that were brought here by immigrants within the last 100 years or so.

    When people clown white culture the usually are meaning the generic white of the slave south that has like 5 different European crosses with 1 random black person in their family tree 5 generations back.

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    White in America is believing that this is your native country and not an immigrant country. You are white if the thought “go back to where you came from” crosses your mind.

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    Birdie

    That’s where it gets confusing because I pass as white to other people until I speak Arabic and say I’m a Muslim

    I’ve hung out with Arab friends who are darker and people will call me the white boy if they’re black/hispanic

    You’ll be straight lol, I got a Puerto Rican friend that gets the same s*** cause he look white

  • Aug 20, 2021
    Birdie

    Is it the typical 2+ generation mix of Italian/irish/anglo? In addition to whoever is fair skin and raised in America?

    I ask this because

    Arabs are considered ‘white’
    North Africans can also be considered ‘white’
    Persians are ‘white’
    And many non-English speaking central Asians are also white
    Also what about the fair skin Latinos and Hispanics that have more Spaniard blood in them than anything else

    Like these groups all have a diversity in skin tone but for the ones which are fair skin they seem to automatically be assimilated into the white people of America if they live here.

    Their cultures are completely different but some how the way they’re viewed by others seems to negate that. I’ve noticed being a fair skin Arab I’m treated differently once I reveal I speak Arabic fluently and seem closer to my roots than people typically think.

    Europeans and Asians — does this dynamic seem common in your countries of residence too?

    IIRC most races are considered white due to the British classifying people as white.

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    MM6 Moka

    You’ll be straight lol, I got a Puerto Rican friend that gets the same s*** cause he look white

    It’s weird

    Canelo got bullied for being a gringo growing up but I think people accept him as a pure Mexican now

    But Louis CK is also Mexican and same thing pretty much except he grew up in America

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    DAVIDP

    If you're skin is white, you're white basically in the US

    Yeah it's a phenotype thing more than anything else, if you look white you're white at least in US. Stuff gets tricky for Hispanic/Latio people because of it too.

    Some people are still out here talking about the one-drop rule.

  • Aug 20, 2021
    Birdie

    It’s weird

    Canelo got bullied for being a gringo growing up but I think people accept him as a pure Mexican now

    But Louis CK is also Mexican and same thing pretty much except he grew up in America

    Well idk they specific situations, but the general rule I’ve gone by is if you half and you act like you white, you white, as long as you embrace ya people and heritage then I’m not just gon call you straight white

  • Birdie

    Spicy white is a good term

    damn wish i was spicy white :.(
    mayo white sound so much worse

  • Aug 20, 2021
    xviii

    Yeah it's a phenotype thing more than anything else, if you look white you're white at least in US. Stuff gets tricky for Hispanic/Latio people because of it too.

    Some people are still out here talking about the one-drop rule.

    Yeah

    Got some friends who are Hispanic and they get mistaken as white all the time. Some of them just ride with it occasionally because they don't care.

  • Aug 20, 2021
    vayla

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    DAVIDP

    If you're skin is white, you're white basically in the US

  • Aug 20, 2021
    ny bookers

    If you ain’t getting kicked out a diner in the 1950s, you white

  • Aug 20, 2021
    ny bookers

    If you ain’t getting kicked out a diner in the 1950s, you white

    italians confirmed not white

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    Skateboard J


  • Aug 20, 2021

    It's very complicated because the definition of "White" has changed so much over time.

    Also, many people who are classified as "White" on the census aren't really perceived that way like Middle Easterners and many Hispanics.

    I remember running into Puerto Ricans and Colombians around my way who looked very Italian or Greek but did not consider themselves "White" at all even though they technically were.

    It's really complicated my dude lol.

  • Aug 20, 2021
    Birdie

    The only reason Arabs are considered white on the census is because Syrian immigrants in the 1800s lobbied to be called white for obvious socioeconomic reasons

    The identity isn’t real

    Really? Didn't know that, that's interesting.

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    MM6 Moka

    You’ll be straight lol, I got a Puerto Rican friend that gets the same s*** cause he look white

    Puerto Rican is a nationality

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    Birdie

    It’s weird

    Canelo got bullied for being a gringo growing up but I think people accept him as a pure Mexican now

    But Louis CK is also Mexican and same thing pretty much except he grew up in America

    Mexican is a nationality...

  • Aug 20, 2021
    continuum

    Puerto Rican is a nationality

    Damn that’s crazy bro stop quoting me