Yo

People only put up with ice spices “music” because of that giant juicy ass of hers. Once that was gone + her friend already exposing her for being fake/a s***ty person, it was wraps

DaBaby got what he deserved. We don’t support homophobia

Because KTT2 claimed he was like 08’ Wayne

Cap. They was definitely saying he was a one flow ho over bikini bottom production right before #that. Plus him punching that girl & his mess with Danileigh. Working with Tory after Meg. Mf was playing Jenga with his career.

Nah I was def going Baby on Baby at a point in time

2020-21 was great for him. My Turn was hard and he was bodying features/collabs. Wants & Needs, We Paid, Every Chance I Get, even Hurricane had s*** on lock. The Bigger Picture showed he had some heart as well, bc no one expected that from him & artists similar. On Me proved he could make hits in between albums. He had a lot going for him.

#Whoa

That nigga a b****, he think he a gangster
He probably still slangin 380
Probably told you I'm lit, come get you a sniff
I'm pure like cocaine in the 80s

His original run of music was genuinely great. was legitimately one of the biggest stars in music at one point.

Every DaBaby song had the same vibe and flow. He never switched it up.

He was the next “one” and niggas let niggas trying to be funny on the timeline snatch it away

But he also didn’t understand that it was time to completely leave the goofy bouncy songs behind and do a serious classic album so niggas couldn’t remotely say that anymore

And then the Rolling Loud thing

“niggas let niggas trying to be funny on the timeline snatch it away”

This goes for a lot of s*** too lol

rip takeoff

Ice Spice = still like her. People just misogynists because she got slimmer

Offset = washed due to Migos dissolution and beefing Quavo

DaBaby = jokes against gay people in this generation don't go down too well. Kirk was an undeniable classic

Lil Baby = washed, same flow every song. Haven't heard a Baby song I've liked since Life Is Good remix

His videos dropped in 2024 account for 60M of that 330M from 2024. Seems like this thread is just full of hate.

How does a nigga get 60M new views on new videos and 270M residual views in a year and niggas are saying he’s not successful??? what he gotta do? Pass billboards standard of success? Cause that don’t matter either if we look at Lil Baby who’s album did well and niggas still think he a flop

Dorks be hating ice spice but then tryna hype Trippes baby momma and the female that needed to get outta Tems way

Ice Spice was never anything more than a meme with a pretty face. Even putting her in this discussion is kinda goofy

Offset had a pretty good career tho. Obviously he’s more known for Migos s***, Which did always do numbers. Even the best rap groups struggle a bit when they decide to split and go solo (especially when their hype has already ran it’s course)

Dababy just got stale very fast. People were already tired of his music and then he decided to go on stage and be homophonic for no reason. His comments cut him from a lot of deals and promotion, He went missing in the public eye and nobody cared enough to check on him

Lil Baby’s last album did decent numbers. Same as dababy tho, People just getting tired of bro making the same s*** over and over again

Well what do all these artists have In common?

They signed something…

They were forced on listeners

They were created to be recycled…

I mean it’s not that hard to figure out. They got stale because they signed something that decided their albums, rollouts, features

They are puppets…

I feel like your last 2 points are opinion perspectives though

When we take a step back, both individuals are still massively successful…I just don’t get what we’re determining success to be

Positive view in the culture?
Numbers?
Views?

Cause they both have the last 2 of those 3 far greater than their active peers who “appear” to be more successful.

And also can we really speak for how they’re viewed in the culture when I seen people freaking out taking pictures when they seen Lil Baby just a few months ago and DaBaby still selling out shows? And not even stateside for those shows which shows global reach/acceptance

All these artists have no creative integrity so naturally, like

he is one of the biggest artists on the planet in music period

KTT needs to have a talk about the industry bc I can not sit here and feel like I’m talking to a bunch of robots…

Yall speak on these mfs so much and never try to push the culture forward and speak on new artists. You just here trying to revive mfs the industry planned to be destroyed

I miss the old KTT. The industry is shifting and rebirthing and yall here just crying bout these wack ass plants who’s label control they money and pay for them to be forced down ya throats.

These mfs do not have classics. They have memes. No one listening to full albums by f***ing DaBaby bro. That’s just painful to even imagine

I mean you can have super successful moments followed by absolute fails

I said Lil Baby is still doing fine numbers wise, Just a bit of a decline from his current peak so far

OP is basically asking why hip hop fans lost interest and don’t really care about these artists anymore

Also dababy went from having hits and doing 100k+ fw to like 5k. He’s always gonna have a small fan base but most people ain’t checking for him like that anymore