Define gameplay lmao

100% physics and gameplay. If the physics sucks the game sucks. Character movement is literally the first thing I play around with in a new game.

Fun-ness

gameplay

Fun and replay value

Games with constant female nudity are a cop

Gameplay/mechanics>>>story>>>>>graphics

I will say the graphics get me interested on first impressions or the intial "pop out" factor

But if im waiting for like a sequel or something then it takes a backseat

Borderlands in general has an iffy story and borderlands 3 in particular was trash for no reason but gameplay got better with every game

Pre sequel was a sideways step but still good

Book reader

Ok but im very not interested in that avengers game

Gameplay > Story > Graphics. Tho it depends on the game like the turn based final fantasy games im not a big fan of the gameplay but the stories save it for me. It's also a reason i can never get into witcher 3 the gameplay is f***ing horrendous

I mean, that s*** dont look good and the gameplay don't look good either

what i mean is that a lotta people say that graphics matters to them the least but when a new game is shown the first thing people judge is the graphics, without even seeing the gameplay too. I feel like people underestimating how much they value graphics.

I remember in the FF7 remake thread, when people recommended the OG version other people were quick to dismiss it cause it looked 'outdated'

Of course they can but most story focused games don't manage to pull this off and most of the games I've play that would put focus on story made gameplay and mechanics separated from the story. I find myself not enjoying games at all when I have to sit through blocks of texts and long dialogues with not much interactivity, I think it's just lazy and uninteresting

Gameplay > Story > Graphics

Sometimes there are exceptions to this, Spec Ops The Line is the best example imo, it has the most generic cover shooter type gameplay out there but the story is so good it makes up for most of the flaws in the gameplay and is the primary reason you keep playing the game.

Tbf the original ff7 is ugly as s*** even for a ps1 game i still love it tho

What he and I are trying to say i think is that games should first and foremost be fun to play, if the game mechanics and subsequently the gameplay is bad, no matter how good of a story it has i wont enjoy that certain game. If a game plays nice and has a good story on top of that, that just adds to the quality of the game. Basically, my criteria for a good game is mostly the gameplay. I wouldnt think so highly of Mario and zelda if they didn't have amazing gameplay, and they got close to no story at all

Graphics do matter a lot tho i don't think i would enjoy Battlefront 2 as much if it didn't look so incredible

female characters need big titties or else im confused

Probably not the best example

I value gameplay a lot tho which is why I was confused when I heard something like that then come in this thread and seeing everyone say they value gameplay the most.

I think that whilst people maybe do value gameplay when they are actually playing the game I think that graphics plays a major role on whether they decide to try the game out in the first place

Also gameplay has to be interesting and the mechanics have to be fun to engage in, that's why open world games almost always suck these days, the ubisoft formuila for open world is tired and feels like a chore 90% of the time... We need a return to games that are more open in their mechanics than in the size of the map

For me it’s the story. The gameplay and graphics don’t have to be top notch for me. I came up during the Super Nintendo era so I don’t trip too much. But if the story is ass I won’t finish the game no matter how good the game feel/look.

style and expression for sure. it's awesome when a games mechanics, story and graphics all mesh together to express a broader narrative. that's why bioshock is so sick. or death stranding

or games that act entirely as a system you can mess around in, like rimworld or kenshi

ayo what

This is all perfectly valid, but I’m personally looking for more out of video games as a medium than gameplay on its own. To paraphrase what I said in my original post: I care about video games as a storytelling medium, and I find gameplay that is contextualised by narrative to be more meaningful.

I personally have zero interest in games that lack story (e.g. Mario), but that’s fine; I’m not asking for those games to cater to me. I mostly play RPGs and narrative-driven action games where story serves as the backbone of the experience (e.g. Persona, Nier: Automata, God of War), and it’s those games that I find to be the most engaging.