I can but don’t feel like typing it all out

point is this

you’re saying it should be okay to abort a baby after a certain time frame. What’s the time frame

humor me

Lmfao cmon man

It’s a woman’s body so it’s her choice.

A woman who ain’t ready to take care of the child shouldn’t be punished.

but the baby should be punished right

All this compassion for the pregnant women but not for the baby who’s going to be murdered

Lmao

why have sympathy for an unborn pre-human thats not even sentient yet?

is it a religious thing? like just considering any "human life" to be sacred

No.

Its a human. And define sentient for me. You mean ability to feel?

You don't have any compassion either for the baby that now has to live with parents/a woman who didn't want it but was forced to give birth and possibly can't even provide for it.

unwanted by parents =/= murdered

nah the ability to 'think' i guess

ex a tree is not sentient, but a whale is

It’s sad to see how I’m like the only one on this side of the isle.

Shows you how f***ed up this generations is

ok boomer

Am i wrong

Using words like “baby” and “murder” in anti-abortion arguments is disingenuous. If it’s just a mass of cells, those words do not apply, all you’re doing is just trying to appeal to emotion.

this is such a bad attitude

why even have a discussion if you just think all those who hold the opposing view are f***ed up

so

let me explain why this isn’t a valid argument

We have cases of current adults who go into a coma. They are in a vegetative state and are not able to think.

We also have cases of people coming out of comas.

So with that being said. Do you think we shouldn’t have compassion or respect the autonomy of those people as well? Should we have the right to kill them even though it’s a potential life? Because they can come out of a coma.

hope you see where I’m going with this

nah I’m just sick of all the euphemisms that are constantly used cause I used to do the same thing

why’s it illegal to kill yourself if abortion is legal

yeah nah you’re right

I’m just saying I’m surprised to see I’m the only one backing this up that’s all

this is an entirely different discussion and I don't see how it relates

i think that is very different partly because those are cases where a once full-fledged/sentient/intelligent/whatever person regresses into a vegetative state. its different from pulling the plug before the 'life' has even begun

its hard to answer your question because there are too many different cases and it would depend on many factors. but i think a lot of the times it would definitely be justified to end support for someone who is completely vegetative. which is worse, to put someone out of their misery or to allow someone to continue on? but we can't answer that question because as bystanders we can't know how the person actually is

Almost like they're different situations so you shouldn't compare them

it's fine when its early in the pregnancy imo. When it starts getting into the middle or end it shouldn't happen.

@Alex
& i'm not making the argument that fetuses aren't sacred because they aren't sentient

was questioning if you value that sentience because animals have it too, some of which you probably eat every day

pigs are smarter than babies. why are their lives worth so much less?

No man

Cause they’re both potential lives

Is my point

They’re both not able to feel
they’re both not “sentient”
they’re both not able to consent to anything being done to them
They’re both POTENTIAL LIVES

Yet we can’t kill one and the other we can

That’s the point