that's insecurity that got nothing to do with rap itself becoming toxic.

And we been getting phoned in collab albums since.

Literally what I had in my head

That dipshit was so unnecessary

nah it can't be solely on academics. the people in those situations have always made light of murdering each other. say what you want about him bc he had an impact on it, but its not the entire reason. people have always seen stuff like that as entertaining as long as they're not the ones in it. thats how ppl like chief keef even got an audience

Yeah this is true. Guess we can be happy about the mainstream artists accomplishments though.

But Control only accelerated that

In a good mood, just wanted to get some good discussion going.

Don't know why everyone is so angry about what I wrote; considering some users didn't even read the thread???

I used to hear all types of rap groups, before sampling loops rappers wore bell-bottom waist suits

Elaborate

91'?

100% agree. I think it’s just natural decline after reaching extreme highs. People are dying in the streets, and folks grab their popcorn along the way like it’s a Broadway act. It’s not, and it’s disgusting that people glorify it

Maybe he's the one that really got it to go mainstream

Brought it to a general audience?

Gangster rap is the answer

But to address it. Turns out, when you open the floodgates to allow anyone can become a rapper, and there's no more middleman that can stop someone from getting in the door because of a past reputation (e.g. DMX was getting passed around labels for years before his debut because of his bad reputation) when you can just have a career independent.

you start getting niggas that probably shouldn't be rapping, becoming full on rappers.

Thank you bro. Glad that you recognize the huge problem going on.

As viewers, we are truly watching s*** hit the fan and yet most people will not speak up about it.

It's even more disgusting that some people will go as far as to MEME it.

If yall dont support the rappers who try to push the positive rap s*** like Chance, Big Sean, Kyle & even current Ye then I ain't trynna here the complaints

We've had more collab albums than ever prior to Control fam what?

Label albums aren't really being a thing anymore but that's because most labels aint really making that much money.

So you’re asking when did it become toxic but also acknowledging it’s always been this way

F*** a b****, don't tease, b**** – strip tease, b****
Eat a bowl of these, b****, gobble the d***
Hoes forgot to eat a d*** and shut the f*** up (Fuck up, b****)
Gobble and swallow a nut up, shut up & get my cash (Cash)

this too ngl.

it's corny for Chance to write about his marriage (and granted, the Big Day was not a well made album) but it aint corny to rap about bodies that you nor your gang didn't even catch or even know? Or bodies of pretty much children?

is it oochie wally or is it one mic

I rock with you bro but this seems kinda goofy when niggas like Mubu Krump and Melly spent all day on IG live cracking jokes about dudes dying

Von too lol

The only thing fatkademiks did was aggregate it in a more suburban friendly manner

This is the truth bro, really love hearing your takes because you're very well informed.

Some say ice cube, some say chief keef, i blame macklemore

In all fairness, most Kurupt verses between '98 and 2000 that dealt with women we just charge it up to him hurting over Foxy Brown.