None of that has anything to do with saying “your vote doesn’t matter”

I’m not shaming anyone. I just called his reasoning hilarious

I’m 31. This is the first time I’ve ever voted.

I planned on going my entire life without voting. But Trump changed that.

So the alternative is to willingly do nothing and guarantee that nothing changes?

You went from saying it's not worth the time and effort to you not wanting to support Biden, you could've just led with that.

implying that voting is the only thing you can do to fight our oppressors lol

ok ill restate the question in my answer this time so you can follow.

how can your vote matter if your vote is .00003% of the votes locally and .0000007% nationally?

more importantly, how can voting matter when even if your vote counted for 75% of all votes you have no influence on who your 2 options are, no influence on what they do once in office, no influence on the legislation they write, and absolutely no influence on what legislation is passed?

Yes on the literal view, 1 single vote isn’t going to make a difference in a national election

If that’s how you’re going to view it, then yeah obviously that’s right. But it’s such a skewed, ignorant way of viewing it.

if im looking at it literally and accurately how is it ignorant and skewed?

is it not more skewed to close your eyes and hold your ears so you can still believe its that easy to make a difference in the world?

I guess since you’re gonna force me to say it.... if every person who thought their 1 vote didn’t count, that would completely sway an election

"'You know in Michigan, the last election for president in 2016, the outcome of that election was decided on average of two votes per precinct in Michigan,' Harris said. 'Two votes can you imagine if each of us just pulled out another two people to make sure they voted today, that could determine who would be the next president of the United States of America.'"

• cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-results-and-news-11-03-20/h_a217d48cf5e1cc4bcaf3f5011c183030

if you live in a swing state, your vote definitely matters
if you live in somewhere super blue or super red, not so much--but the congressional race might still be very tight depending on where you live
plus theres a lot of propositions and such you can vote on that have huge impacts (eg californians voted to legalize weed via ballot)

mf youre still missing my point.

if i was the only person in the country who voted i still wouldnt make a difference.

the 2 options in each seat are already decided. once ive picked theyre going to go into office and will do whatever they want. theres still going to be perpetual war. theres still going to be excessive income tax dumped into a needlessly bloated military. prisons are still run for profit. colleges are still forcing the coming generation into crippling debt. the economy is still controlled by a private organization no one voted on.

it goes on and on. vote if you want, but dont pretend it matters.

Of it's not, but this thread is about voting.

I hope none of you think you have any right to complain about election results.

You’re arguing something I’m not. You’re arguing how much your vote matters to an extent.

Your vote obviously matters. Yeah after you vote you can’t control anything that person does.... that doesn’t mean your vote didn’t matter.

how does it matter then?

I know you’re not a moron. Do you not vote who gets that position?

assuming i was the only person who voted or the deciding vote in a swing state, sure. but that doesnt mean it matters. does it matter who gets what position? and did my voting have any influence on who the 2 candidates were in the first place?

Again, you’re only arguing the extent to which your vote matters

It’s not zero.

i voted in the mid terms in 2018 but not this time around. I've done my research and Idk still felt like their weren't any good options. prolly should have done it for the senate and s*** tho.

ok. i guess if the only point youre trying to make is that a vote could possibly make a fraction of a percentage of a difference in a certain s***ty candidate being in a s***ty office vs another, sure. in my opinion that doesnt really count as "mattering." i have higher standards for myself.

and if my vote means that damn little id rather just not be compliant and accept any percentage of responsibility for the mass theft and genocide our country commits.

plus im still just so offended that they would try to tell me voting is the most important thing i can do. its so f***ing demeaning.

just don’t see the point in black people voting time & time again just to get the same results. None of you liberals can give me a good reason to vote other than to get Agent Orange out of office and if he does get the boot the dems will just do the same things he’s been doing but won’t be held accountable for it.

I’d rather see activists get organized and get radical. Not wait every 4 years to vote just to get lubed up and f***ed over by neo-libs.

just an update, i was 500,000 ppl away from making a difference anyways

didn’t feel like standing in line for hours/being around other people in a pandemic that long for a “lesser evil” candidate that didn’t earn my vote as a young black. I ain’t voting for nobody bc they simply not the other guy lmao

May have been a mistake a f*** nigg won my local elections lmao

Electoral college makes my vote irrelevant needed like 300,000 votes to swing blue

didn’t vote, happy i didn’t