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  • Dec 29, 2019
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    Tripstarr

    quality isn't subjective.

    All the classic albums you can think of are universally acclaimed, except a few that are classic because of impact/influence

    and even some die hard 50 cent admit grodt is a 7/10.

    Having an impact =/= making good music.

    Congrats your a beta loser hive minded sheep that needs that op onions of white critics to form an opinion

  • Dec 29, 2019
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    Senior Intern

    Yet he released no album this year, and still got billions of streams. Peculiar

    your point? kendrick released nothing in 2 years and DAMN is on its way to 5x paltinum and gkmc became the longest-charting standalone hip-hop album in billboard history

    Drake is indeed still doing numbers, but again, his numbers been boosted by the high number of tracks his albums have. Billboard even said more tracks = more success.

  • Dec 29, 2019
    DEL_245

    Drake really runs this site man

  • Ignance

    it’s a white kendrick stan

    This s*** is sad

  • Dec 29, 2019
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    Galaxy

    808s being "panned" by critics is such hyperbole.

    It got pretty good reviews but the style detour kept it from matching the acclaim of his previous stuff.

    Jesus is King got panned, not 808s

    808s wasn’t well received in hip hop and receive average and luke warm reception from critics doesn’t mean it isn’t a good album

    The opinion of the consensus at the time was just like warm

    It’s all subjective opinions, these scores and reviews are compilations from the thoughts of random critics

  • Dec 29, 2019
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    Sunny Sun

    808s wasn’t well received in hip hop and receive average and luke warm reception from critics doesn’t mean it isn’t a good album

    The opinion of the consensus at the time was just like warm

    It’s all subjective opinions, these scores and reviews are compilations from the thoughts of random critics

    In "hip hop"... well it's other people's fault for reviewing it as a hip hop album lmao.

    Plus you said it was panned. Which it was not

  • Dec 29, 2019
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    Sunny Sun

    Congrats your a beta loser hive minded sheep that needs that op onions of white critics to form an opinion

    I don't need critics to form an opinion.

    but whether you agree or not, all good albums get acclaim.

    There's indeed a few bad albums that I enjoy, and a few good albums that I don't enjoy, but all of them have the rating they deserve.

  • Dec 29, 2019
    Galaxy

    In "hip hop"... well it's other people's fault for reviewing it as a hip hop album lmao.

    Plus you said it was panned. Which it was not

    Kanye is a hip hop artist so I can see the disconnect

  • Dec 29, 2019
    Sunny Sun

    808s wasn’t well received in hip hop and receive average and luke warm reception from critics doesn’t mean it isn’t a good album

    The opinion of the consensus at the time was just like warm

    It’s all subjective opinions, these scores and reviews are compilations from the thoughts of random critics

    This is simply not true. Most of the “urban” publications had it as one of the best of the year.

  • Dec 29, 2019
    Tripstarr

    your point? kendrick released nothing in 2 years and DAMN is on its way to 5x paltinum and gkmc became the longest-charting standalone hip-hop album in billboard history

    Drake is indeed still doing numbers, but again, his numbers been boosted by the high number of tracks his albums have. Billboard even said more tracks = more success.

    We're not talking about Kendrick dummy.

    There was very little new Drake released this year, but people still went back to his old stuff in their billions. But people on here haven't met Drake fans IRL so it doesn't count I guess

  • Dec 29, 2019
    SHAQUILLE

    The crazy thing is artists Kenny Kanye and Wayne HAVE the commercial success yet it’s never used as the defining argument for why their music is good like it is for Drake

    What do you want drake fans to talk about? he got nothing lol

    and his music is objectively wack, so they can't even talk about that either, they can only discuss his popularity

  • Tripstarr

    music isn't really subjective, unless you're a casual listener who lacks musical knowledge.

    🌽

  • Dec 29, 2019

    whichever one garnered 15 grammys in that 5 year period

  • Dec 29, 2019
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    Streaming era at its height at the same time of Drake's peak in popularity has helped him immensely...

    Nowadays, a big rapper releasing an album will almost guarantee all the songs from that album hit the top 100 because of streaming. Let's not lie to ourselves, if LR or Graduation were released in an era of streaming, those numbers would have been MASSIVE

  • Dec 29, 2019
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    wait WAIT I think i know the way to end this discussion... @Tripstarr are you black?

  • DEL_245

    since when talking about someone's dominance of a genre do we refer to their ratings by critics online

    Drake really is just that big in every aspect that acclaim, which is subjective, is the only thing you can cling to

    Lmao its pathetic

  • Dec 29, 2019
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    Galaxy

    Streaming era at its height at the same time of Drake's peak in popularity has helped him immensely...

    Nowadays, a big rapper releasing an album will almost guarantee all the songs from that album hit the top 100 because of streaming. Let's not lie to ourselves, if LR or Graduation were released in an era of streaming, those numbers would have been MASSIVE

    album sales have plummeted in the streaming era lol

    those albums wouldve sold 2/3 if not half what they did if they came out today

  • Dec 29, 2019
    nikedon

    wait WAIT I think i know the way to end this discussion... @Tripstarr are you black?

    aren't we all black here? I mean I suspect the majority of drake fans are white girls but...

  • Dec 29, 2019
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    Tripstarr

    your point? kendrick released nothing in 2 years and DAMN is on its way to 5x paltinum and gkmc became the longest-charting standalone hip-hop album in billboard history

    Drake is indeed still doing numbers, but again, his numbers been boosted by the high number of tracks his albums have. Billboard even said more tracks = more success.

    This is not success to call dominant. Kendrick got Interscope to bought their own copies. Kendrick has a own tour in decade why others have a tons

  • Dec 29, 2019

    Drake 11-18 If you only count sales

  • Dec 29, 2019
    Galaxy

    Streaming era at its height at the same time of Drake's peak in popularity has helped him immensely...

    Nowadays, a big rapper releasing an album will almost guarantee all the songs from that album hit the top 100 because of streaming. Let's not lie to ourselves, if LR or Graduation were released in an era of streaming, those numbers would have been MASSIVE

    even billboard revealed Drake was selling more because he was manipulating these streaming services by dropping 20+ tracks albums, when everybody else was just making 10-16 tracks albums

    but Drake fans will try to ignore this fact

    lmfao scorpion is like 25 songs

  • Dec 29, 2019

    lil wayne from 2007 to 2009 was more dominant than their 5 years.

  • Dec 29, 2019
    Sunny Sun

    808s wasn’t well received in hip hop and receive average and luke warm reception from critics doesn’t mean it isn’t a good album

    The opinion of the consensus at the time was just like warm

    It’s all subjective opinions, these scores and reviews are compilations from the thoughts of random critics

    808s copy and paste of T-pain sound. The most impactful rap-sung artist before Drake are T-Pain or Lil Wayne

  • Dec 29, 2019
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    Troy Ave Stan

    Tryna slide Kendrick in there

    I’m a Kendrick Stan but not delusional

    b you’re not a Kendrick stan quit saying this

  • Dec 29, 2019
    Tripstarr

    I don't need critics to form an opinion.

    but whether you agree or not, all good albums get acclaim.

    There's indeed a few bad albums that I enjoy, and a few good albums that I don't enjoy, but all of them have the rating they deserve.

    Welp If MBDTF would’ve gotten a 70% of Meta critic it would’ve been a bad album according to your logic

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