quality isn't subjective.
All the classic albums you can think of are universally acclaimed, except a few that are classic because of impact/influence
and even some die hard 50 cent admit grodt is a 7/10.
Having an impact =/= making good music.
Congrats your a beta loser hive minded sheep that needs that op onions of white critics to form an opinion
Yet he released no album this year, and still got billions of streams. Peculiar
your point? kendrick released nothing in 2 years and DAMN is on its way to 5x paltinum and gkmc became the longest-charting standalone hip-hop album in billboard history
Drake is indeed still doing numbers, but again, his numbers been boosted by the high number of tracks his albums have. Billboard even said more tracks = more success.
808s being "panned" by critics is such hyperbole.
It got pretty good reviews but the style detour kept it from matching the acclaim of his previous stuff.
Jesus is King got panned, not 808s
808s wasn’t well received in hip hop and receive average and luke warm reception from critics doesn’t mean it isn’t a good album
The opinion of the consensus at the time was just like warm
It’s all subjective opinions, these scores and reviews are compilations from the thoughts of random critics
808s wasn’t well received in hip hop and receive average and luke warm reception from critics doesn’t mean it isn’t a good album
The opinion of the consensus at the time was just like warm
It’s all subjective opinions, these scores and reviews are compilations from the thoughts of random critics
In "hip hop"... well it's other people's fault for reviewing it as a hip hop album lmao.
Plus you said it was panned. Which it was not
Congrats your a beta loser hive minded sheep that needs that op onions of white critics to form an opinion
I don't need critics to form an opinion.
but whether you agree or not, all good albums get acclaim.
There's indeed a few bad albums that I enjoy, and a few good albums that I don't enjoy, but all of them have the rating they deserve.
In "hip hop"... well it's other people's fault for reviewing it as a hip hop album lmao.
Plus you said it was panned. Which it was not
Kanye is a hip hop artist so I can see the disconnect
808s wasn’t well received in hip hop and receive average and luke warm reception from critics doesn’t mean it isn’t a good album
The opinion of the consensus at the time was just like warm
It’s all subjective opinions, these scores and reviews are compilations from the thoughts of random critics
This is simply not true. Most of the “urban” publications had it as one of the best of the year.
your point? kendrick released nothing in 2 years and DAMN is on its way to 5x paltinum and gkmc became the longest-charting standalone hip-hop album in billboard history
Drake is indeed still doing numbers, but again, his numbers been boosted by the high number of tracks his albums have. Billboard even said more tracks = more success.
We're not talking about Kendrick dummy.
There was very little new Drake released this year, but people still went back to his old stuff in their billions. But people on here haven't met Drake fans IRL so it doesn't count I guess
The crazy thing is artists Kenny Kanye and Wayne HAVE the commercial success yet it’s never used as the defining argument for why their music is good like it is for Drake
What do you want drake fans to talk about? he got nothing lol
and his music is objectively wack, so they can't even talk about that either, they can only discuss his popularity
music isn't really subjective, unless you're a casual listener who lacks musical knowledge.
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Streaming era at its height at the same time of Drake's peak in popularity has helped him immensely...
Nowadays, a big rapper releasing an album will almost guarantee all the songs from that album hit the top 100 because of streaming. Let's not lie to ourselves, if LR or Graduation were released in an era of streaming, those numbers would have been MASSIVE
wait WAIT I think i know the way to end this discussion... @Tripstarr are you black?
since when talking about someone's dominance of a genre do we refer to their ratings by critics online
Drake really is just that big in every aspect that acclaim, which is subjective, is the only thing you can cling to
Lmao its pathetic
Streaming era at its height at the same time of Drake's peak in popularity has helped him immensely...
Nowadays, a big rapper releasing an album will almost guarantee all the songs from that album hit the top 100 because of streaming. Let's not lie to ourselves, if LR or Graduation were released in an era of streaming, those numbers would have been MASSIVE
album sales have plummeted in the streaming era lol
those albums wouldve sold 2/3 if not half what they did if they came out today
wait WAIT I think i know the way to end this discussion... @Tripstarr are you black?
aren't we all black here? I mean I suspect the majority of drake fans are white girls but...
your point? kendrick released nothing in 2 years and DAMN is on its way to 5x paltinum and gkmc became the longest-charting standalone hip-hop album in billboard history
Drake is indeed still doing numbers, but again, his numbers been boosted by the high number of tracks his albums have. Billboard even said more tracks = more success.
This is not success to call dominant. Kendrick got Interscope to bought their own copies. Kendrick has a own tour in decade why others have a tons
Streaming era at its height at the same time of Drake's peak in popularity has helped him immensely...
Nowadays, a big rapper releasing an album will almost guarantee all the songs from that album hit the top 100 because of streaming. Let's not lie to ourselves, if LR or Graduation were released in an era of streaming, those numbers would have been MASSIVE
even billboard revealed Drake was selling more because he was manipulating these streaming services by dropping 20+ tracks albums, when everybody else was just making 10-16 tracks albums
but Drake fans will try to ignore this fact
lmfao scorpion is like 25 songs
808s wasn’t well received in hip hop and receive average and luke warm reception from critics doesn’t mean it isn’t a good album
The opinion of the consensus at the time was just like warm
It’s all subjective opinions, these scores and reviews are compilations from the thoughts of random critics
808s copy and paste of T-pain sound. The most impactful rap-sung artist before Drake are T-Pain or Lil Wayne
Tryna slide Kendrick in there
I’m a Kendrick Stan but not delusional
b you’re not a Kendrick stan quit saying this
I don't need critics to form an opinion.
but whether you agree or not, all good albums get acclaim.
There's indeed a few bad albums that I enjoy, and a few good albums that I don't enjoy, but all of them have the rating they deserve.
Welp If MBDTF would’ve gotten a 70% of Meta critic it would’ve been a bad album according to your logic