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  • Sep 10, 2020
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    you want heroine being sold at your local gas station?

  • Sep 10, 2020
    Yevin

    you want heroine being sold at your local gas station?

    Please

  • Sep 10, 2020
    TIIMMY BURNER

    The people who wanna do crack already doing it regardless. Everyone knows d**** are bad. If a person wants to do d**** they're going to find a way always. All d**** being illegal does it create a cat and mouse game with the police and d*** offenders, which keep prisons full of non-violent offenders. And d**** being illegal directly contributes to the violence around them and the cartels keeping power.

    Thoughts?

    I don’t need someone who’s legally allowed to heroin responsible for a baby

  • Sep 10, 2020
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    If I was a tobacco exec I’d make weed illegal too, but imo it comes down to racism and who’s making money off what

    truth be told tho i wouldn’t really support heroin, crack n meth being legal ever

  • Sep 10, 2020
    bossyyyyy

    If I was a tobacco exec I’d make weed illegal too, but imo it comes down to racism and who’s making money off what

    truth be told tho i wouldn’t really support heroin, crack n meth being legal ever

    At the very least simple possession should not be illegal. Up to a certain amount. Everyone would agree the war on d**** was an absolute failure.

    Arresting a fiend for possession solves nothing, and making the d**** illegal clearly hasn't stopped the d*** problem.

    Look at alcohol prohibition for example. When alcohol was made illegal it led to bootleggers who sometimes sold bad batches that caused death, as well as made alcohol trading violent because of gangs cashing in on the market. Alcohol was made legal again and immediately there was a drop in violent crimes around the trade of alcohol and a drop in deaths due to tainted batches.

    Now maybe you'd argue alcohol isn't as damaging as the other d****, but the core of the argument still stands, it being illegal has solved NOTHING and has only done more harm.

  • Sep 11, 2020
    CurlyZ

    I mean, they are illegal in theory because misusing them can be detrimental to your health, but in practice it has more to do with classism and racism.

    If you look at the history of d**** in the U.S. typically substances are made illegal based on who is profiting off them.

    For example, opium wasn’t really banned or really even seen as bad anywhere in America until anti-Chinese sentiments became popular in the late 1800’s. Chinese immigrants were profiting off the d***, so law makers demonized opium dens and Chinese men, which led to local bans and eventually made it federally illegal. This put the power to sell the d*** in white hands almost exclusively.

    A little later on, weed was made illegal in the 1930’s due to the fact that black and brown people were both using it and profiting off of it. The U.S. demonized the d*** simply by weaponizing American racism against Black smokers and sellers in the eastern part of the country and Mexican and Native American smokers and sellers out West. If we look at weed legalization right now, it’s no mistake that white people are now the main ones profiting off its legalization and popularity growth. This is what the U.S. does.

    Yeah racism was the biggest factor originally. A growing amount of white youth at the time started to visit opium dens, smoke weed and listen to jazz and become friends with minorities. Like Reefer madness was just about how weed lures white women to fall for black and Mexican men.

  • Sep 12, 2020

    Cause they can’t be monetised

  • Sep 12, 2020
    Default

    They don’t want people getting rich off doing nothing like they do. Like imagine how much money d*** dealers would make if they could just be open with shipping and distribution

    Well that's never gonna happen even if d**** were legal it's not like you can do that s*** with weed. I'm sure people do it but it's not legal.

  • Sep 12, 2020
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    Did anyone post that joen rogan interview with the author who knows this?

  • Sep 12, 2020
    Yevin

    you want heroine being sold at your local gas station?

    god yall are so stupid lol

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    Cowbook

    Did anyone post that joen rogan interview with the author who knows this?

    didn’t he bring up something about heroin being a gigantic problem in Switzerland, and nothing they tried worked. But then they created facilities that allowed people to legally obtain heroin and also work to rehab them off it, and it completely fixed their entire epidemic, where criminalizing it only made it worse

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    Decriminalisation has proven to be successful in countries like Portugal. Decriminalisation is not the same as legalisation, which some people have confused in this thread. I agree with decriminalisation but not legalisation (depending on the substance). IMO it should be done on a case by case basis supported by research (like weed).

  • Sep 12, 2020
    Slingshot

    didn’t he bring up something about heroin being a gigantic problem in Switzerland, and nothing they tried worked. But then they created facilities that allowed people to legally obtain heroin and also work to rehab them off it, and it completely fixed their entire epidemic, where criminalizing it only made it worse

    Yeah that's the one

    He explained how weed became illegal but idk about other d****

  • Feb 28, 2021
    An_Gogh

    I'd bet psilocybin mushrooms will be legal next. they've been decriminalized in a few cities in the U.S.

    Nostradamus (legalized in Oregon)

  • Mar 1, 2021
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    Im tired of ya'll comparing hard d**** to alcohol or cigs

  • Mar 1, 2021

    @op I highly recommend Drug Use for Grown-Ups: Chasing Liberty in the Land of Fear by Carl Hart. It's about how some of the biggest dangers of d**** come from their being illegal

  • Mar 1, 2021

    Libertarian nonsense.

  • Need that private prison revenue babyyy penguinz0 voice

  • Mar 1, 2021

    I'm generally team legalize everything but I do see the argument for government having the responsibility of looking out for the best interest of its citizens and upholding some sort of general moral framework

  • JayS 🦄
    Mar 1, 2021

    Decriminalize and better rehab support.

    Walk down Kensington Philadelphia and say yeah her ion should be legal. S*** is f***ed up. Need to find a way to help these people that ain’t lock them up.

  • Loser s***

  • Mar 1, 2021
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    Decriminalisation is must

    And legalised weed & acid

  • Mar 1, 2021

    Probably because government controls the black market and get much more money then if they were legal.

    My non conspiracy take is that there DUI is a problem and that's only alcohol, but imagine if people get access to cocaine, heroin, meth, everything will become much more random and hard to control.

  • Mar 1, 2021
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    Nexizimas

    Im tired of ya'll comparing hard d**** to alcohol or cigs

    Alcohol literally one of the worst d**** out there

  • Mar 1, 2021
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    EuroNymous

    Decriminalisation is must

    And legalised weed & acid

    Still not sure about lsd tbh but definitely legalize shrooms