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  • Jun 7, 2021
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    Slingshot

    Honestly I think the bigger question is what will happen once AI is introduced to the medical realm and Hospitals and surgeries are done via perfectly programmed machines

    Who will make the money?

    In fact right now as we speak, who is pocketing the money off hospital facilities? The money has to go through at least one person irl, so who is handling the funds with blood on their hands from people that nurses have ADMITTED they sometimes let die due to high maintenance and cost to keep alive so they pull the plug (look that up also if you don't believe it)

    Re: facilities question
    It depends who owns the contracts. So it’s a tender/procurement/legal issue not medical or governmental

  • Jun 7, 2021
    Stan

    I meant 'horizontally distributed and networked' as in it's been distributed to a lot of people and everyone within that pool is more or less connected with everybody else

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    CLDP

    Re: facilities question
    It depends who owns the contracts. So it’s a tender/procurement/legal issue not medical or governmental

    see this post even confused ME, and you just some random dude on ktt

    now imagine the type of mental hoops they able to jump through to get away with whatever they doing up there

  • Jun 7, 2021
    Slingshot

    see this post even confused ME, and you just some random dude on ktt

    now imagine the type of mental hoops they able to jump through to get away with whatever they doing up there

    Lmfao so true

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    CLDP

    I have no experience in this field but I’m a Lawyer & we have “time-served lawyers” who, despite not having a formal degree, are qualified to practice Law. It exists in Engineering too & is often synonymous with apprenticeships/traineeships (over formal Bachelor’s) but equally often enough you find people with no qualification but a lot of experience in the trade

    I suppose something in medicine could exist (an alternative to the formal 7/8-year degree). But I’m being told ITT otherwise

    @spiderman Input/thoughts on this?

  • CLDP

    @spiderman Input/thoughts on this?

    hope he can just close the thread because it's a 0/10

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    dumbass discussion

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    Slingshot

    see this post even confused ME, and you just some random dude on ktt

    now imagine the type of mental hoops they able to jump through to get away with whatever they doing up there

    it's the capitalist class.

    what you're asking is an important question not just for healthcare but for all industries.

    AI and automation have the potential to drastically change the human condition for the better.

    but only if the fruits of their production are controlled by the people, and not by capitalist "elites" who will use their so-called ownership to siphon time, energy and life from the people in exchange for their necessities of life.

    it's only a question that will get more and more pressing as time goes on too.

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    @str8dollaz they coming for you

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    Frog

    dumbass discussion

    nice contribution

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    nice contribution

    anything that involves self-teaching and medicine is a dumbass discussion

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    Frog

    @str8dollaz they coming for you

    My King

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    CLDP

    My King

    mine too

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    deadacc

    it's the capitalist class.

    what you're asking is an important question not just for healthcare but for all industries.

    AI and automation have the potential to drastically change the human condition for the better.

    but only if the fruits of their production are controlled by the people, and not by capitalist "elites" who will use their so-called ownership to siphon time, energy and life from the people in exchange for their necessities of life.

    it's only a question that will get more and more pressing as time goes on too.

    wouldnt ai make life easier? how could it make life harder

  • Jun 7, 2021
    CLB Fractions

    wouldnt ai make life easier? how could it make life harder

    developed AI in the hands of the capitalists would be a powerful tool to oppress

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    Frog

    mine too

    on ur knees for another man

  • Jun 7, 2021
    Womanpuncher69

    on ur knees for another man

  • Womanpuncher69

    on ur knees for another man

    leave this thread, it's a horrible place

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    CLDP

    I have no experience in this field but I’m a Lawyer & we have “time-served lawyers” who, despite not having a formal degree, are qualified to practice Law. It exists in Engineering too & is often synonymous with apprenticeships/traineeships (over formal Bachelor’s) but equally often enough you find people with no qualification but a lot of experience in the trade

    I suppose something in medicine could exist (an alternative to the formal 7/8-year degree). But I’m being told ITT otherwise

    For minor surgeries like gallstone or kidney stone removal, you can get them done by doctors who aren't very qualified and have simply done the basic degree as the procedures for such minor surgeries are set in stone. But even for these, you would require a small establishment, not as big as a hospital. I am not against that, that would actually cost less for people but for critical cases you would always require qualified doctors who have specializations or super-specializations. My aunt had high blood pressure issues ,liver issues and diabetes, if she wasn't being treated by proper and well-qualified doctors (multiple too as she had multiple issues related to different organs) in a proper hospital she would have succumbed to CoVID. Situations become tricky when you a person has multiple comorbidities and only well qualified doctors could treat such a case.
    I know the current system is not great, a lot of money is involved but I just find the solution provided by OP to be impractical.

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    Frog

    anything that involves self-teaching and medicine is a dumbass discussion

    what about learning from people outside of university?

    not all doctors do surgery btw

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    what about learning from people outside of university?

    not all doctors do surgery btw

    i cant really see modern medicine being learned all that well without the benefits of a university and affiliated teaching hospitals

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    SpiderMan

    For minor surgeries like gallstone or kidney stone removal, you can get them done by doctors who aren't very qualified and have simply done the basic degree as the procedures for such minor surgeries are set in stone. But even for these, you would require a small establishment, not as big as a hospital. I am not against that, that would actually cost less for people but for critical cases you would always require qualified doctors who have specializations or super-specializations. My aunt had high blood pressure issues ,liver issues and diabetes, if she wasn't being treated by proper and well-qualified doctors (multiple too as she had multiple issues related to different organs) in a proper hospital she would have succumbed to CoVID. Situations become tricky when you a person has multiple comorbidities and only well qualified doctors could treat such a case.
    I know the current system is not great, a lot of money is involved but I just find the solution provided by OP to be impractical.

    midlevel providers

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    People say stupid stuff for clout on social media just ignore it.

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    Enlighten Brother

    People say stupid stuff for clout on social media just ignore it.

    The more you look into it and actually do the research the more it makes sense though

    I was pretty skeptical initially but this thread plus some other little tidbits and tidbites i saw online made me consider it more

  • Jun 7, 2021
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    Frog

    midlevel providers

    Thanks for the term, was slipping through my mind.

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