Out of interest in what ways do u think is the world worse off now than at times when religion was very dominant in society?

What makes you say that? Not trying to prove u wrong btw

You live a little differently when you genuinely believe that "if you're a good person you get to see your dead parents again" vs "whether you're good or bad it doesn't matter, your life is meaningless"

why do you follow islam when arabs still enslave black people to this day

Maybe I phrased it wrong. I don't think society is any different than before. I think that 1. social media has made things spread faster and that 2. things that are affecting us now are different that before. 3. people are held more accountable for the crimes and actions now so less people will act on stuff.

For example an excess of d*** head and pill popping culture we have here, OVERsexualization culture, etc. While back then people were killing enslalving etc. which is what Im trying to say.

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That's true, but I think that's part of a problem which is present on both sides. I don't know what I or someone else would gain from shaming you or dismantle any hope. That's never been my intention in the first place. But I do think a conversation from time to time will increase understanding for both sides if they're willing to really listen. Sorry if I was a little harsh in the first place, I tend to do that sometimes when I feel someone is being done wrong and that doesn't make it right.

What do you mean by hyper sexual sociaties?

True religion becomes personal. If it helps you today in a time of need, its doesn't matter who forced it upon your ancestors in the past.

I really believe that's a silly approach towards the discussion. Because the child is going to face some conversion sooner or later, so why not prepare him/her for it and let it develop their own views. You can adjust/steer as you're a parent and create moral standard even though you and your kid has discussions with atheists? Maybe you're not getting them to a public school, but to fully deny any conversation seems really weird to me.

People can follow what they want. Black christians and Muslims just look a lil goofy to me

Yeah true. There could be a more realistic approach to the benefits of religion.

It gets confusing in teen years when you've been told your entire life that what you believe is true and everything else is a lie. Then finding out that your entire life is a lie and everything else is true...maybe ... To this day I feel like I'm a fighting an internal spiritual/moral war

Why do Muslims look goofy?

Why only black christians and not white christians

I think this a really normal feeling and something atheists face too. We can act like atheists don't have doubts and be secure about all these matters, but that's not the case. The fact someone is able to articulate this and his internal struggles shows real human growth to me.

The atlantic and arabic slave trades

Maybe religion should be treated/taught more like tradition/culture instead of law

That’s real

Can I just be interested in learning about God without religion ?

In retrospect you might be onto something. Look at how religion is so easily weaponized.

Wars have been fought under the guise of god. Blacks and white american christians are sheep when it comes to present day politics.

That's my current approach to it

There's still a lot of wisdom in spiritual literature

From what I understand slave owners did force Christianity onto slaves but it was like an “edited” version like they twisted s*** around for it to benefit them (Correct me if I’m wrong about this)

But for sure if religion gave them strength and hope to cope with what they were going through and even the strength to risk their life’s for their freedom I don’t see why people would hate on it

In the end let people believe what they wanna believe

This first paragraph debunks this whole thread. And if people don’t realize that it didn’t start with our slave masters lmao. The s*** was in Africa. The Bible in the Old Testament is Lietrally nature/kemet against “The Way” which is referred to Christianity in our times.

And the Christianity that OP is talking about is not the true spiritual Christianity. Your talking about the whitewashed paganized one that the Europeans brought to America and used it against us

Im Actually more interested in this now 🤔

I always see ppl say "whites forced Christianity onto slaves" but I just can't understand how if slaves were banned from reading and writing + what benefit would slaves get from being forced into Christianity?

Would it be to domesticate them ?

Can you elaborate a little bit more